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We are. I was an exchange student in Ukraine in high school and the town I lived in periodically gets shelled now… we live immensely privileged and comfortable
by piloto_ciego 4y ago
We are.
I was an exchange student in Ukraine in high school and the town I lived in periodically gets shelled now… we live immensely privileged and comfortable lives.
This is not a bad thing, it’s great, but we should try to make everyone else’s life as good instead of hoarding our privileges.
- mrguyorama 4y agoIt's not privilege, millions of people have died defending the right to not be invaded by an asshole neighbor. Don't forget the price people have paid. Some places seem to be less interested in that, because they want to invade their neighbor, and we should be aggressively hostile to that very concept, and anyone who espouses the belief.
- borski 4y agoUnless you or your family were the ones that fought, it is privilege. Privilege isn’t a “bad word,” either - it’s okay to have privilege. But acknowledging it’s existence goes a long way toward building humility and understanding the situation of others who don’t have it.
- majou 4y agoIs it not "be privileged" or to "have privileges"? It's not as though it were quantifiable—"privilege checks" (the decade old boogeymeme) notwithstanding.
- borski 4y agoNot sure I understand what you mean. I am saying it is good to acknowledge the privileges you have, and/or the fact that you are privileged. Not everybody has privileges, or is privileged, or however you’d like to describe it.
- seizethecheese 4y agoDefine family. Because most Americans are descendants of war veterans.
- borski 4y agoYou are intentionally missing the point. The pedantic definition of family is a strawman, in this case.
- seizethecheese 4y agoSorry it came across that way. I was hoping to point out that there are shades of truth to what you say. Probably lower class people have a lot more latent trauma passed through generations.
- borski 4y agoSure, I agree with that. Trauma can definitely be generational.
- kelnos 4y agoI mean, so what? If one of my ancestors fought in a war defending their/my country's freedom, I don't get to claim credit for what they did. I am privileged that those ancestors made the sacrifice they did and don't have to fight in a war myself.
- borski 4y agoPrecisely.
- seizethecheese 4y agoI believe there’s more nuance here. If both of my grandfathers fought in WWII and neither of yours did, my parents are likely to have picked up a lot of latent trauma that yours did not. I believe the lower classes in this country are less “privileged” for their freedom , on average. Of course, the more time passes, the smaller this effect.
- mensetmanusman 4y agoThese debates over privilege get complicated because everyone is privileged on some facet of their existence.
- borski 4y agoSure. And it’s not a competition. Acknowledging the ways in which we are privileged is all I’m suggesting we do. Living in a warzone affords very little privilege, but likely not none.
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- robotresearcher 4y ago> Don't forget the price people have paid. i.e. recognize that you are privileged, since others paid the price on your behalf.
- tasuki 4y ago> It's not privilege Why is it not privilege? What is privilege?
- kelnos 4y ago> It's not privilege, millions of people have died defending the right to not be invaded by an asshole neighbor. Yes, and benefiting from that -- without having had to fight in those conflicts -- is a privilege.