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> My point was that nobody has ever used household for two houses. Ever. If you can find a place that has been done, I'd be swayed. But I have never ever seen t

by shkkmo 4y ago

> My point was that nobody has ever used household for two houses. Ever. If you can find a place that has been done, I'd be swayed. But I have never ever seen that. Then maybe you should have spent some time looking before so strongly asserting something that is flat out wrong. Go look at some definitions. There are plenty of legal definitions, in addition to dictionary ones, that clearly contradict your take. The key element is shared residency and living expenses. The number of homes owned is not relevant.

taeric 4y ago
Point me to some. Seriously, the definition linked here clearly has household as the combination. Where are households defined as multiple houses? For fun, try https://www.prb.org/resources/what-is-a-household/ https://www.prb.org/resources/what-is-a-household/ which says "A household is defined by the U.S. Census Bureau as all the people who occupy a single housing unit, regardless of their relationship to one another." Did they get it wrong? https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/cps/technical-documentation/subject-definitions.html#household https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/cps/technical-docume... seems to agree with them. Or, maybe, you are just trying to gaslight folks and not actually arguing in good faith...
- shkkmo 4y ago
  The census is a great example. If a person is at a location, such as vacation home, when the census counts them, the census counts them as at the location that they sleep at the most. You don't stop being a part of a household just because you're spending the weekend at your cabin. Even if your 10 person household has 11 homes, 1 primary home where everyone sleeps 183 days a year and 10 vacation homes where each sleeps the other 182 days a year, that would still be counted as a 10 person household by the census. And both those linked definition make clear the basic point that you are still apparently failing to grasp. The referrent of "household" is the people who share their primary residence, not the residence itself.
  - taeric 4y ago
    Ah, I see the distinction you are trying to make. You are talking of the people in the household. But that is easily seen as a distinct thing from the household. Consider standard household services. They are tied to the household, which has a fixed address. Is why power company won't give you power for your RV at any other location. Again, I'm sympathetic. And power companies distinguish this with service address. But this is exactly the point. Every other "sharable thing" will be a distinguished thing that is shared. They will often have vague ass terms that tie it to the people of a household. But they will also have carve outs on how that applies to them.

by shkkmo 4y ago

taeric 4y ago

Point me to some. Seriously, the definition linked here clearly has household as the combination. Where are households defined as multiple houses? For fun, try https://www.prb.org/resources/what-is-a-household/ https://www.prb.org/resources/what-is-a-household/ which says "A household is defined by the U.S. Census Bureau as all the people who occupy a single housing unit, regardless of their relationship to one another." Did they get it wrong? https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/cps/technical-documentation/subject-definitions.html#household https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/cps/technical-docume... seems to agree with them. Or, maybe, you are just trying to gaslight folks and not actually arguing in good faith...

shkkmo 4y ago
The census is a great example. If a person is at a location, such as vacation home, when the census counts them, the census counts them as at the location that they sleep at the most. You don't stop being a part of a household just because you're spending the weekend at your cabin. Even if your 10 person household has 11 homes, 1 primary home where everyone sleeps 183 days a year and 10 vacation homes where each sleeps the other 182 days a year, that would still be counted as a 10 person household by the census. And both those linked definition make clear the basic point that you are still apparently failing to grasp. The referrent of "household" is the people who share their primary residence, not the residence itself.
- taeric 4y ago
  Ah, I see the distinction you are trying to make. You are talking of the people in the household. But that is easily seen as a distinct thing from the household. Consider standard household services. They are tied to the household, which has a fixed address. Is why power company won't give you power for your RV at any other location. Again, I'm sympathetic. And power companies distinguish this with service address. But this is exactly the point. Every other "sharable thing" will be a distinguished thing that is shared. They will often have vague ass terms that tie it to the people of a household. But they will also have carve outs on how that applies to them.