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on the other hand, a bullet isn't stopped by bullet proof fabric, it's stopped by what's behind it. If I take a 9mm round to the arm then my arm is breaking. Th

on the other hand, a bullet isn't stopped by bullet proof fabric, it's stopped by what's behind it. If I take a 9mm round to the arm then my arm is breaking. That 600J is focused on a much smaller area than a heavyweight punch.

hesdeadjim 3y ago
Yea this. Now conceivably such a sci-fi suit might have a non-Newtonian reaction to a bullet impact and automatically spread the force over a wider area in a somehow non-destructive way.
- brohee 3y ago
  Dunno about sci-fi, but some tactical gear is incorporating D3O today (see https://www.deltathreeoscar.com/ https://www.deltathreeoscar.com/). And I suspect the most advanced stuff is not quite public.
backpackviolet 3y ago
No, that’s the magic of the bulletproof fabric. Imagine the energy of the bullet is distributed across the entire garment.
- libria 3y ago
  I think that is our problem, we have a hard time imagining how the energy could be distributed across the garment. You could sell me on Non-Newtonian-Kevlar though: Pliant to a slow crease, rock-hard with a sudden strike. --- Oh man I thought I was making that up, but it's a thing! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_Armor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_Armor The future is now!
  - wongarsu 3y ago
    It also doesn't have to spread it out over a particularly large area. If we are talking about the force of a punch from a good boxer, we only have to spread it over the area of the front of a boxing glove. That seems perfectly reasonable for a fabric layer soaked with a non-Newtonian fluid.
  - Zababa 3y ago
    > You could sell me on Non-Newtonian-Kevlar though: Pliant to a slow crease, rock-hard with a sudden strike. "Nanomachines, son. They harden in response to physical trauma."
  - j_mo 3y ago
    According to that page, BAE systems et al were using kevlar soaked in a solution of polyethylene glycol and silica nanoparticles. All readily available online, if you can afford something like $200 per 2ml of silica nanoparticles. It would be amazing to see one of the YouTube channels that has tried making their own, just make the real thing. I imagine a suit made of dripping wet Kevlar wouldn't be too comfortable though. John Wick would experience some chafing.
jandrese 3y ago
If the physics is to be believed then it should be roughly the same as being punched in the arm by a strong guy. So long as you aren't suffering from osteoporosis you should be able to take the hit. The trick with bulletproof materials is to spread the energy out, the fabric would need to be like a super oobleck where it becomes completely rigid when hit by a bullet and then return to being flexible afterward. If it is bulletproof but still acts like fabric then the bullet will just pull it along as it pierces through your body.

hesdeadjim 3y ago

Yea this. Now conceivably such a sci-fi suit might have a non-Newtonian reaction to a bullet impact and automatically spread the force over a wider area in a somehow non-destructive way.

brohee 3y ago
Dunno about sci-fi, but some tactical gear is incorporating D3O today (see https://www.deltathreeoscar.com/ https://www.deltathreeoscar.com/). And I suspect the most advanced stuff is not quite public.

backpackviolet 3y ago

No, that’s the magic of the bulletproof fabric. Imagine the energy of the bullet is distributed across the entire garment.

libria 3y ago
I think that is our problem, we have a hard time imagining how the energy could be distributed across the garment. You could sell me on Non-Newtonian-Kevlar though: Pliant to a slow crease, rock-hard with a sudden strike. --- Oh man I thought I was making that up, but it's a thing! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_Armor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_Armor The future is now!
- wongarsu 3y ago
  It also doesn't have to spread it out over a particularly large area. If we are talking about the force of a punch from a good boxer, we only have to spread it over the area of the front of a boxing glove. That seems perfectly reasonable for a fabric layer soaked with a non-Newtonian fluid.
- Zababa 3y ago
  > You could sell me on Non-Newtonian-Kevlar though: Pliant to a slow crease, rock-hard with a sudden strike. "Nanomachines, son. They harden in response to physical trauma."
- j_mo 3y ago
  According to that page, BAE systems et al were using kevlar soaked in a solution of polyethylene glycol and silica nanoparticles. All readily available online, if you can afford something like $200 per 2ml of silica nanoparticles. It would be amazing to see one of the YouTube channels that has tried making their own, just make the real thing. I imagine a suit made of dripping wet Kevlar wouldn't be too comfortable though. John Wick would experience some chafing.

jandrese 3y ago

If the physics is to be believed then it should be roughly the same as being punched in the arm by a strong guy. So long as you aren't suffering from osteoporosis you should be able to take the hit. The trick with bulletproof materials is to spread the energy out, the fabric would need to be like a super oobleck where it becomes completely rigid when hit by a bullet and then return to being flexible afterward. If it is bulletproof but still acts like fabric then the bullet will just pull it along as it pierces through your body.