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Deep cultural significance to who? Modern Greek culture has next to nothing in common with ancient Greek culture. The religion of the temple they came from no
by fallingknife 4y ago
Deep cultural significance to who? Modern Greek culture has next to nothing in common with ancient Greek culture. The religion of the temple they came from no longer even exists, so what special meaning is there to modern Greeks (whose current religion is actually responsible for the destruction of many ancient Greek archeological sites anyway)?
I don't recognize claims of continuity here, and to me it sounds more like "it's valuable and I want it" with modern nationalism sprinkled on top. The arguments seem to be really "they're really emotional about it, so give them what they want," and I am not at all sympathetic to that.
- coldtea 4y ago>I don't recognize claims of continuity here Yes, you only recognize a thief briding his way, while a country was under occupation, to break archeological artifacts from the temple structure, and take them away from their original site and land. >so what special meaning is there to modern Greeks Maybe ask modern Greeks then? This is some next level colonial entitlement.
- fallingknife 4y agoWhat country was under occupation? Certainly not Greece. There was no state of Greece at the time, nor had there ever been. What we call Greece now is entirely a construct of modern nationalism. And what we call "ancient Greece" was a collection of different states and cultures in no way resembling modern Greece.
- polotics 4y agoAncient Greece does resemble modern Greece in many ways actually. From the food to the language to the geography...
- YeGoblynQueenne 4y agoI'm really sorry to be rude but, who the hell are you, and who the hell cares what you recognise, or don't recognise, or what you're sympathetic to? Where do you find the knowledge to say what has cultural significance to modern Greeks, whom you clearly know next to nothing about? Where do you get the authority to say that our culture -I'm Greek- has "next to nothing in common with ancient Greek culture"?? According to what, and to whom? Get off your high horse! Your opinions have no basis in anything else than the stubborn arrogance of internet randos. You know nothing of the things you're talking about.
- fallingknife 4y ago[flagged]
- polotics 4y agocompare and contrast: https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2021/02/20/ancient-greek-swear-words/ https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2021/02/20/ancient-greek-s... ... https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/greek-word-for-a7f9b77c16a3aa80daa4e378659226f628326a95.html https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/greek-word-for-a7f9b77...
- coldtea 4y ago>Do you speak ancient Greek? "Koine Greek", the Greek of the Septuagint (the New Testament translation from Hebrew), from 2300 years ago, is well understood, and the huge majority of the words are in active use in the "modern koine Greek" Greeks speak. Is 2300 years (about 100 years after Plato and Aristotle) ancient enough for you? >Do you worship ancient Greek gods? Which ancient Greek holidays do you celebrate? Do you wear ancient Greek style clothes? A people's historical artifacts is not something that stops belonging to them and their civilization because they've changed aspects of their culture over time. Of course, for citizens of countries that never had much of a history to begin with, and would have even less without plundering others, this is difficult to comprehend.