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> MS still lacks a industry leading 21st century consumer device The XBox division doesn't count?

by zamnos 3y ago

jayd16 3y ago
Successful but not perhaps not dominant. That said, they have more market share vs Playstation than iOS has over Android.
VWWHFSfQ 3y ago
I don't know any numbers but I would guess that Xbox is not close to being the market leader. Sony has that wrapped. Xbox is probably closer to Nintendo. They do, however, have a competitive platform which is important. Something they could never do with Windows Phone.
- ginko 3y ago
  > Sony has that wrapped Nintendo sold 4 Switches for every PS5 on the market.
  - felixg3 3y ago
    Given the price stability and the hardware specs, probably also a higher profit per device.
- deleted 3y ago
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froggychairs 3y ago
Video game consoles are technically 20th century invention. Xbox is just a continuation of that legacy even if the brand started in 21st Xbox also isn’t top dog among the big 3. They’ve really struggled to ship big exclusive system sellers (which is a bummer. I’m a big fan of a lot of Xbox IP), so they certainly aren’t “industry leading”. Doesn’t mean the exclusives they’ve shipped aren’t good. They certainly are, just that their is no Xbox answer to God of War or Last of Us GamePass is one of the biggest success stories to come out of Xbox and is certainly the dominant game streaming service
- seanhunter 3y ago
  It's hillarious how the public perception differs from reality on console sales. Mario has everyone else smoked[1]. [1] A bit out of date but see https://www.statista.com/chart/26122/estimated-lifetime-sales-of-current-gen-consoles-by-market/ https://www.statista.com/chart/26122/estimated-lifetime-sale... where in 2021 nintendo were selling more switches in Japan only (their 3rd biggest market) than the worldwide sales of both Xbox and PS5 combined.

4 ms·

> MS still lacks a industry leading 21st century consumer device The XBox division doesn't count?

by zamnos 3y ago

> MS still lacks a industry leading 21st century consumer device The XBox division doesn't count?

jayd16 3y ago
Successful but not perhaps not dominant. That said, they have more market share vs Playstation than iOS has over Android.
VWWHFSfQ 3y ago
I don't know any numbers but I would guess that Xbox is not close to being the market leader. Sony has that wrapped. Xbox is probably closer to Nintendo. They do, however, have a competitive platform which is important. Something they could never do with Windows Phone.
- ginko 3y ago
  > Sony has that wrapped Nintendo sold 4 Switches for every PS5 on the market.
  - felixg3 3y ago
    Given the price stability and the hardware specs, probably also a higher profit per device.
- deleted 3y ago
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froggychairs 3y ago
Video game consoles are technically 20th century invention. Xbox is just a continuation of that legacy even if the brand started in 21st Xbox also isn’t top dog among the big 3. They’ve really struggled to ship big exclusive system sellers (which is a bummer. I’m a big fan of a lot of Xbox IP), so they certainly aren’t “industry leading”. Doesn’t mean the exclusives they’ve shipped aren’t good. They certainly are, just that their is no Xbox answer to God of War or Last of Us GamePass is one of the biggest success stories to come out of Xbox and is certainly the dominant game streaming service
- seanhunter 3y ago
  It's hillarious how the public perception differs from reality on console sales. Mario has everyone else smoked[1]. [1] A bit out of date but see https://www.statista.com/chart/26122/estimated-lifetime-sales-of-current-gen-consoles-by-market/ https://www.statista.com/chart/26122/estimated-lifetime-sale... where in 2021 nintendo were selling more switches in Japan only (their 3rd biggest market) than the worldwide sales of both Xbox and PS5 combined.