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Anecdotes aside the average user keeps their phone 2.6 years. https://www.statista.com/statistics/619788/average-smartphone-life/ https://www.statista.com/stat

Anecdotes aside the average user keeps their phone 2.6 years. https://www.statista.com/statistics/619788/average-smartphone-life/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/619788/average-smartphon... The ASP of a new phone in 2021 (latest non pay walled site i could find) was $321 https://statinvestor.com/data/35666/smartphone-average-selling-price-worldwide/ https://statinvestor.com/data/35666/smartphone-average-selli... And if someone makes over $100K a year, statistically they are probably an iPhone user. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3668913/you-are-the-product-but-with-an-apple-twist.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/3668913/you-are-the-pr... The ASP of an iPhone is $825

OJFord 3y ago
I'm not sure if that's supposed to contradict my point, but I don't think an iPhone user earning $100k is skipping a model, upgrading only every 2.6y, because they can't afford to upgrade faster.
- scarface74 3y ago
  The point I’m making is that most people aren’t buying $110 phones and keeping them for years and most people making what the stereotypical HN user makes also isn’t buying $110 phones.
  - OJFord 3y ago
    But that's because they want a phone that happens to be more expensive, not because they (necessarily) have a greater capacity to afford it than (all) those of us with cheaper ones, was my point. Obviously there are people with a phone choice that has been limited by their ability to spend, I'm not denying that, I'm just saying you don't have to look nearly as far as billionaires for those who aren't. If you prefer, I could equally have phrased it as people buying iPhones as frequently as they come out or not, either way needn't be billionaires; in the former case becoming a billionaire is unlikely to make you suddenly see that as an excess.

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Anecdotes aside the average user keeps their phone 2.6 years. https://www.statista.com/statistics/619788/average-smartphone-life/ https://www.statista.com/stat

by scarface74 3y ago

OJFord 3y ago
I'm not sure if that's supposed to contradict my point, but I don't think an iPhone user earning $100k is skipping a model, upgrading only every 2.6y, because they can't afford to upgrade faster.
- scarface74 3y ago
  The point I’m making is that most people aren’t buying $110 phones and keeping them for years and most people making what the stereotypical HN user makes also isn’t buying $110 phones.
  - OJFord 3y ago
    But that's because they want a phone that happens to be more expensive, not because they (necessarily) have a greater capacity to afford it than (all) those of us with cheaper ones, was my point. Obviously there are people with a phone choice that has been limited by their ability to spend, I'm not denying that, I'm just saying you don't have to look nearly as far as billionaires for those who aren't. If you prefer, I could equally have phrased it as people buying iPhones as frequently as they come out or not, either way needn't be billionaires; in the former case becoming a billionaire is unlikely to make you suddenly see that as an excess.