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All the BS hype about 5G was a red flag for me. They were always showing how doctors could operate on people in far away places (never mentioning the fact that

All the BS hype about 5G was a red flag for me. They were always showing how doctors could operate on people in far away places (never mentioning the fact that the people in the far away places probably have no health care) and it is also all supposed to lead to everything from energy efficiency to higher efficiency. But all I get is a higher phone bill and no option to opt out of a 5G plan even though I turn it off on my phone. And what did we probably really get? More surveillance. You do know, don't you, that these mmWave can pinpoint you and your activity with an ever increasing exactness that should concern all of us. https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/8804831 https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/8804831 https://www.hindawi.com/journals/js/2021/6657709/ https://www.hindawi.com/journals/js/2021/6657709/ https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/8645553 https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/8645553 https://www.fastcompany.com/90314058/5g-means-youll-have-to-say-goodbye-to-your-location-privacy https://www.fastcompany.com/90314058/5g-means-youll-have-to-...

ridgered4 4y ago
I sometimes wonder if the dumber 5G conspiracies were seeded as part of a psyops campaign to paint anyone negative of 5G as a fringe lunatic.
- FollowingTheDao 4y ago
  I agree. What I said is completely valid and I am being DV'd. And the minute I start talking about just the possibility that 5G could be harmful or used against us people think I believe that they also have nanobots in vaccines. If someone wants to criticize the idea that 5G could be used for greater intelligence gathering please have at it. Otherwise, your DVs just make me more paranoid.
scarface74 4y ago
Phones have had GPS since the 2G era. 5G is the least of your problem.
- FollowingTheDao 4y ago
  You’re wrong here, even the first iPhone did not have a GPS.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Just because the first iPhone didn’t have GPS, it doesn’t mean GPS didn’t exist in phones before then. I had this phone before the iPhone existed and it had GPS. https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=824 https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=824 It came out in 2005: https://www.cnet.com/reviews/samsung-mm-a900-sprint-review/ https://www.cnet.com/reviews/samsung-mm-a900-sprint-review/
    - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
      That is a 3G phone. And having a GPS on your phone does not make YOU trackable. It only matters if the phone sends that data to someone else. That was not happening on these flip phones. I cannot believe I fell for this. The point I am making is that you do not need to have a phone to be surveilled and tracked by 5G. Look at the studies I posted.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        The point was that just because the iPhone didn’t have GPS, it doesn’t mean that phones didn’t have GPS before then. And government tracking by cell phones was also around in 2005 https://www.fletc.gov/sites/default/files/imported_files/training/programs/legal-division/downloads-articles-and-faqs/research-by-subject/miscellaneous/TrackingIndividualsviaTheirCellularPhones.pdf https://www.fletc.gov/sites/default/files/imported_files/tra...

ridgered4 4y ago

I sometimes wonder if the dumber 5G conspiracies were seeded as part of a psyops campaign to paint anyone negative of 5G as a fringe lunatic.

FollowingTheDao 4y ago
I agree. What I said is completely valid and I am being DV'd. And the minute I start talking about just the possibility that 5G could be harmful or used against us people think I believe that they also have nanobots in vaccines. If someone wants to criticize the idea that 5G could be used for greater intelligence gathering please have at it. Otherwise, your DVs just make me more paranoid.

scarface74 4y ago

Phones have had GPS since the 2G era. 5G is the least of your problem.

FollowingTheDao 4y ago
You’re wrong here, even the first iPhone did not have a GPS.
- scarface74 4y ago
  Just because the first iPhone didn’t have GPS, it doesn’t mean GPS didn’t exist in phones before then. I had this phone before the iPhone existed and it had GPS. https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=824 https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=824 It came out in 2005: https://www.cnet.com/reviews/samsung-mm-a900-sprint-review/ https://www.cnet.com/reviews/samsung-mm-a900-sprint-review/
  - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
    That is a 3G phone. And having a GPS on your phone does not make YOU trackable. It only matters if the phone sends that data to someone else. That was not happening on these flip phones. I cannot believe I fell for this. The point I am making is that you do not need to have a phone to be surveilled and tracked by 5G. Look at the studies I posted.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      The point was that just because the iPhone didn’t have GPS, it doesn’t mean that phones didn’t have GPS before then. And government tracking by cell phones was also around in 2005 https://www.fletc.gov/sites/default/files/imported_files/training/programs/legal-division/downloads-articles-and-faqs/research-by-subject/miscellaneous/TrackingIndividualsviaTheirCellularPhones.pdf https://www.fletc.gov/sites/default/files/imported_files/tra...