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>I recall reading that some Black artist was told his song about wanting to kill the cops was not okay. Cops can kill Blacks. Blacks can't sing about how that m

>I recall reading that some Black artist was told his song about wanting to kill the cops was not okay. Cops can kill Blacks. Blacks can't sing about how that makes them feel. If a black person killed someone close to me and I released my newest single about how I want to murder black people would it get published? Doubt it. Besides it's not like cops are allowed to kill black people either.

dalbasal 3y ago
How about politicians? Bob Dylan told them he'd "stand over their grave to make sure that you're dead." Springstein disparaged congressmen's children. If cops get protection from hate speech... why not politicians?
rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago
Theoretically you’re right but you’re denying the reality on the ground, which is the context of the debate and which you are taking out. Sure, cops are not allowed to kill black people but the reality is that black people are being treated unequally and that can be statistically backed up. I keep hearing arguments like what you mentioned and I can’t help taking it as a dismissal of black people’s struggles and an unkind disinterest to suffering that you do not personally experience. And if a black person does kill someone you love, why would you even think about black people in the same way as cops, when “black people” aren’t some public entity armed by the state to do the job of protecting people of all colors? You’re misrepresenting the issue. The only way to channel your hatred against an ethnic group that doesn’t have statutory power over you is to become racist.
- cmh89 3y ago
  >Sure, cops are not allowed to kill black people But they de facto are in many cases. Cops can generally kill at will and without real justification and not face consequences. It's only in rare cases when public outcry is enough, like in the slaying of George Floyd, where prosecutors will even attempt to hold cops accountable.
DoreenMichele 3y ago
Black people, who account for 13 percent of the U.S. population, accounted for 27 percent of those fatally shot and killed by police in 2021 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/report-black-people-are-still-killed-police-higher-rate-groups-rcna17169 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/report-black-people-are-... And on average White Americans still live longer than Blacks, though the gap isn't as stark as it once was. https://www.humanprogress.org/dataset/u-s-life-expectancy-at-birth-by-race/ https://www.humanprogress.org/dataset/u-s-life-expectancy-at...
- jwond 3y ago
  Now account for rates of violent crime.
  - DoreenMichele 3y ago
    Account for historic slavery, disenfranchisement, etc.
    - throwaway384418 3y ago
      Your personal circumstances don't excuse violent behavior, that's school shooter mindset.
      - DoreenMichele 3y ago
        These are not "personal circumstances." Laws have been written to intentionally disenfranchise Black Americans, to intentionally criminalize Black Americans, etc.
commandlinefan 3y ago
> would it get published In fact, you'd have a much harder time than the rapper in OP's post - who actually did get his published.

dalbasal 3y ago

How about politicians? Bob Dylan told them he'd "stand over their grave to make sure that you're dead." Springstein disparaged congressmen's children. If cops get protection from hate speech... why not politicians?

rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago

Theoretically you’re right but you’re denying the reality on the ground, which is the context of the debate and which you are taking out. Sure, cops are not allowed to kill black people but the reality is that black people are being treated unequally and that can be statistically backed up. I keep hearing arguments like what you mentioned and I can’t help taking it as a dismissal of black people’s struggles and an unkind disinterest to suffering that you do not personally experience. And if a black person does kill someone you love, why would you even think about black people in the same way as cops, when “black people” aren’t some public entity armed by the state to do the job of protecting people of all colors? You’re misrepresenting the issue. The only way to channel your hatred against an ethnic group that doesn’t have statutory power over you is to become racist.

cmh89 3y ago
>Sure, cops are not allowed to kill black people But they de facto are in many cases. Cops can generally kill at will and without real justification and not face consequences. It's only in rare cases when public outcry is enough, like in the slaying of George Floyd, where prosecutors will even attempt to hold cops accountable.

DoreenMichele 3y ago

Black people, who account for 13 percent of the U.S. population, accounted for 27 percent of those fatally shot and killed by police in 2021 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/report-black-people-are-still-killed-police-higher-rate-groups-rcna17169 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/report-black-people-are-... And on average White Americans still live longer than Blacks, though the gap isn't as stark as it once was. https://www.humanprogress.org/dataset/u-s-life-expectancy-at-birth-by-race/ https://www.humanprogress.org/dataset/u-s-life-expectancy-at...

jwond 3y ago
Now account for rates of violent crime.
- DoreenMichele 3y ago
  Account for historic slavery, disenfranchisement, etc.
  - throwaway384418 3y ago
    Your personal circumstances don't excuse violent behavior, that's school shooter mindset.
    - DoreenMichele 3y ago
      These are not "personal circumstances." Laws have been written to intentionally disenfranchise Black Americans, to intentionally criminalize Black Americans, etc.

commandlinefan 3y ago

> would it get published In fact, you'd have a much harder time than the rapper in OP's post - who actually did get his published.