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Torrent trackers are useless on long term because no one will seed for infinity.

felixg3 4y ago
Well, then you haven't witnessed the beauty of What.cd or PTP. A bunch of data hoarders with webseeds. Find that rare promo release from 1978 on Vinyl? Check. Get a lossless copy of a professionally digitized Laserdisc release of a film? Check.
- sam_lowry_ 4y ago
  rutracker is still good at archiving, albeit naturally biased towards Russian language. This is probably how it survives.
- bombcar 4y ago
  For now. But to survive generations you need a continual supply of new people interested in becoming data hoarders and seeding stuff they have absolutely never watched. Which may happen for awhile, even a century. But it won't last thousands of years, unless storage space becomes infinitely big and cheap.
malermeister 4y ago
The beauty about it's distributed nature is that you don't need anyone seeding for infinity. You just need somebody seeding at all times and if you ever use a private tracker, you'll see that that's not an issue at all.
- DeathArrow 4y ago
  I saw many torrents with 0 seeders. Someone will be seeding only if the interest in that content is great. Rare content won't get any seeders. Old movies don't tempt many people. I liked DC++ approach on file sharing more. If someone in the network has the file, you can get it, no matter how rare. It can be an obscure film made in 1930 or an mp3 only few people know or care about.
  - malermeister 4y ago
    Was that on a private tracker? Those usually have strict rules around sharing ratios to prevent that scenario and in my experience, it works pretty well!
    - DeathArrow 4y ago
      DC++ is a client for DC/ADC protocol. 20 and 25 years ago, before torrents, it was king and it provided what us, poor kids, didn't have the money to pay for. I guess today it isn't used that much as it used to be. It requires a client for discovery. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC%2B%2B https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC%2B%2B
yamtaddle 4y ago
I would—or, at least, I'd seed a whole lot longer—if there were a way to let me keep seeding after I normalize the file naming and structure. As it is, I have to render most downloads un-seedable in order to actually use them.
- malermeister 4y ago
  I use symlinks for that!

Well, then you haven't witnessed the beauty of What.cd or PTP. A bunch of data hoarders with webseeds. Find that rare promo release from 1978 on Vinyl? Check. Get a lossless copy of a professionally digitized Laserdisc release of a film? Check.

sam_lowry_ 4y ago
rutracker is still good at archiving, albeit naturally biased towards Russian language. This is probably how it survives.
bombcar 4y ago
For now. But to survive generations you need a continual supply of new people interested in becoming data hoarders and seeding stuff they have absolutely never watched. Which may happen for awhile, even a century. But it won't last thousands of years, unless storage space becomes infinitely big and cheap.

malermeister 4y ago

The beauty about it's distributed nature is that you don't need anyone seeding for infinity. You just need somebody seeding at all times and if you ever use a private tracker, you'll see that that's not an issue at all.

DeathArrow 4y ago
I saw many torrents with 0 seeders. Someone will be seeding only if the interest in that content is great. Rare content won't get any seeders. Old movies don't tempt many people. I liked DC++ approach on file sharing more. If someone in the network has the file, you can get it, no matter how rare. It can be an obscure film made in 1930 or an mp3 only few people know or care about.
- malermeister 4y ago
  Was that on a private tracker? Those usually have strict rules around sharing ratios to prevent that scenario and in my experience, it works pretty well!
  - DeathArrow 4y ago
    DC++ is a client for DC/ADC protocol. 20 and 25 years ago, before torrents, it was king and it provided what us, poor kids, didn't have the money to pay for. I guess today it isn't used that much as it used to be. It requires a client for discovery. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC%2B%2B https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC%2B%2B

yamtaddle 4y ago

I would—or, at least, I'd seed a whole lot longer—if there were a way to let me keep seeding after I normalize the file naming and structure. As it is, I have to render most downloads un-seedable in order to actually use them.

malermeister 4y ago
I use symlinks for that!