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Looking at the comments it seems like most are just out of touch with gen z (or whatever gen) as big milk is. Cow milk is for baby cows.

• malermeister 3y ago
  Cow milk is a part of human culture that has enabled us to settle in places where we otherwise couldn't have. There's a reason lactose tolerance in Scandinavia is so high. In Winter, you can't get enough calories from crops. The only thing you have is inedible (to you) grass and bushes. Cattle is a way to convert that to something that can provide calories to you. The lactose intolerant in those places have been wiped out by millenia of natural selection.
  • marcinzm 3y ago
    And is it still used for that purpose? If not then I'm not sure why it matters what it was used for before?
    • malermeister 3y ago
      Because it created an entire culture around it, our people's history. Parmigiano Reggiano was loved by Boccaccio already. Homer's Odyssey talks of what we would call Feta today. Egyptian murals detail cheesemaking. Today, too, dairy is an important aspect of many cultures. > Sandra Ott’s fascinating ethnography of Basque shepherds (Ott 1981) reveals much about the central role cheese can have in everyday life. In the remote French Basque Pyrenean village of Sainte-Engrâce, the cheeses that local syndicates of shepherds produce from their mountain huts takes so much care and attention that the resulting product is treated both metaphorically and ritually as their “children”. The formation of both babies and mountain cheeses alike are seen as analogous processes in the local worldview: “men’s generative creativity in procreation as in cheesemaking is believed to convey not only form but also identity. Basque cheeses, no less than children, have paternity and come from patrilineages (Paxson 2013: 52)”. https://hraf.yale.edu/the-social-life-of-cheese/ https://hraf.yale.edu/the-social-life-of-cheese/ Dairy products aren't just food. They're millenia old culture and identity.
      • marcinzm 3y ago
        >Dairy products aren't just food. They're millenia old culture and identity. So people aren't allowed to change their preferences or way of life if it's deemed "cultural"?
        • malermeister 3y ago
          Of course they are, nobody said anything suggesting otherwise. However, saying "cow milk is for baby cows" is a silly reductive take that ignores pretty much the entirety of human history and the heritage we've built around it. Oat grains are for baby oat plants! - See how silly that sounds?
    • cfn 3y ago
      Sure is, milk is drunk all over the world in large quantities. I can speak for Portugal, the milk aisles in the supermarkets are an order of magnitude larger than the soy, almond, etc "milks". Without milk you won't have butter, mascarpone, cream, cheese and yogurt (and many spreads). Milk is also the basis of most breakfasts around here, with granola and other cereals. We also give milk to children in school to help those that are poor and may not be eating properly at home. On a lighter note, milk is essential for the confection of many cakes, for chocolate, ice cream, as well as for many recipes, sweet and sour.
  • Pyramus 3y ago
    Appreciate the historical facts yet don't see how we can draw from it that milk is good/bad/whatever? Taking your argument to extremes: Historically slavery enabled us to farm huge plantations which we couldn't otherwise have... ?! If at all, following your argument, you seem that say that historically humans only consumed milk in inhospitable places.
  • bt4u 3y ago
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• crocwrestler 3y ago
  I am out of touch, are we talking about gen z in America, or globally? Is this all gen Z or just the extremely online ones?
• Volundr 3y ago
  I generally prefer the taste of cashew or almond milk, but the whole "Cow milk is for baby cows" is really weak logic. Chickens don't lay eggs for us, potatoes don't root for us, most of our food is not produced by it's source intended for our nutrition. If something is healthy for us or not has little to do with it being "for us".