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Thank you for the honest response. It reflects your perspective in a vivid and relatable way. I understand you in some manner - I grew up watching Captain Plan

Thank you for the honest response. It reflects your perspective in a vivid and relatable way. I understand you in some manner - I grew up watching Captain Planet and similar eco-oriented shows that have instilled in me some feeling of "importance" of the whole subject. And seeing other people trample upon what are some of our most sacret beliefs, developed for decades, can make us sick of them. The only criticism of those beliefs I would have is that they come from sentiment, not (only) reason - so, in theory, if instead of eco-literature, you read, say, the Bible, you would most likely have equally strong beliefs towards Christianity, and they would be supported by more-or-less same number of arguments derived from years of studying. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), it's really hard to separate ourselves from our sentiment. I guess that the world is doomed to stay a divisive place, because humans are, in their essence, emotional creatures with reason added.

carapace 4y ago
> The only criticism of those beliefs I would have is that they come from sentiment, not (only) reason - so, in theory, if instead of eco-literature, you read, say, the Bible, you would most likely have equally strong beliefs towards Christianity, and they would be supported by more-or-less same number of arguments derived from years of studying. I like to point out (usually in a different context) that ecology is a science, and it's applications are technology. I wrote a comment a few months ago about my beliefs and "the similarities and differences to religious apocalyptics as I see them" that you might find interesting? In sum (if I may be so gauche as to quote myself) "Ideally environmental apocalypticism is self-extinguishing." That's the primary (psychological) diiference (IMO) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32065654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32065654 > I guess that the world is doomed to stay a divisive place, because humans are, in their essence, emotional creatures with reason added. I dunno. The most powerful emotion is love, eh? And I think the newfangled talking computers will make really good cheap therapists.

carapace 4y ago

> The only criticism of those beliefs I would have is that they come from sentiment, not (only) reason - so, in theory, if instead of eco-literature, you read, say, the Bible, you would most likely have equally strong beliefs towards Christianity, and they would be supported by more-or-less same number of arguments derived from years of studying. I like to point out (usually in a different context) that ecology is a science, and it's applications are technology. I wrote a comment a few months ago about my beliefs and "the similarities and differences to religious apocalyptics as I see them" that you might find interesting? In sum (if I may be so gauche as to quote myself) "Ideally environmental apocalypticism is self-extinguishing." That's the primary (psychological) diiference (IMO) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32065654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32065654 > I guess that the world is doomed to stay a divisive place, because humans are, in their essence, emotional creatures with reason added. I dunno. The most powerful emotion is love, eh? And I think the newfangled talking computers will make really good cheap therapists.