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Yes, tactile buttons are better for the user. But that won't matter in the long run as cars become more and more autonomous. Tesla's FSD for instance is far fro

Yes, tactile buttons are better for the user. But that won't matter in the long run as cars become more and more autonomous. Tesla's FSD for instance is far from perfect (and MobilEye will bring this to other brands), but when not actively controlling the vehicle 99% of the time, tactile buttons vs touchscreens becomes much less of an issue.

oblio 3y ago
1. You do know that other car manufacturers have more advanced and more reliable driver's assistance than Tesla's fake FSD, right? MobilEye or not. 2. We could be 50 years away from universal real FSD.
- martindbp 3y ago
  Define "more advanced"? Besides perhaps MobilEye's SuperVision there is no ADAS as advanced in terms of what it can do, if you believe otherwise you need a reality check. Reliability? Sure, Mercedes has their famed L3 in stop and go traffic, in good weather, if the road doesn't curve too much. FSD, if you use it, takes over your driving 99% of the time, which is why I'm saying tactile buttons or not is just not that important at that point. It might not make sense to switch back to buttons if cars of all brands will have their own version of FSD in a few years. 2. I very much doubt that, but even if there is no "true" L4 FSD in a consumer vehicle anytime soon, this thread is about tactile buttons and my points still stands.
  - oblio 3y ago
    There are at least a few reviews that put Tesla's stuff behind GM's SuperCruise and a few other driver assist systems.
    - martindbp 3y ago
      Here's the thing about reviews and the media: anything negative about Tesla gets clicks, that's why every single accident involving a Tesla makes headlines. Another factor is that most auto companies pay for advertising in the media while Tesla so far has not, biasing reviews and coverage in favor of the companies that are paying the bills. But that may sound too conspiratorial for you, but how about just observing the current state of FSD, here's the first video of you search YouTube: https://youtu.be/JhmlKKVOWfI https://youtu.be/JhmlKKVOWfI Many times when I've had these discussions with people it boils down to misunderstandings of what Autopilot is vs FSD, or just impressions based on the tech 3 years ago. FSD is far from L4 but it's in a very advanced state compared to other ADAS systems.

oblio 3y ago

1. You do know that other car manufacturers have more advanced and more reliable driver's assistance than Tesla's fake FSD, right? MobilEye or not. 2. We could be 50 years away from universal real FSD.

martindbp 3y ago
Define "more advanced"? Besides perhaps MobilEye's SuperVision there is no ADAS as advanced in terms of what it can do, if you believe otherwise you need a reality check. Reliability? Sure, Mercedes has their famed L3 in stop and go traffic, in good weather, if the road doesn't curve too much. FSD, if you use it, takes over your driving 99% of the time, which is why I'm saying tactile buttons or not is just not that important at that point. It might not make sense to switch back to buttons if cars of all brands will have their own version of FSD in a few years. 2. I very much doubt that, but even if there is no "true" L4 FSD in a consumer vehicle anytime soon, this thread is about tactile buttons and my points still stands.
- oblio 3y ago
  There are at least a few reviews that put Tesla's stuff behind GM's SuperCruise and a few other driver assist systems.
  - martindbp 3y ago
    Here's the thing about reviews and the media: anything negative about Tesla gets clicks, that's why every single accident involving a Tesla makes headlines. Another factor is that most auto companies pay for advertising in the media while Tesla so far has not, biasing reviews and coverage in favor of the companies that are paying the bills. But that may sound too conspiratorial for you, but how about just observing the current state of FSD, here's the first video of you search YouTube: https://youtu.be/JhmlKKVOWfI https://youtu.be/JhmlKKVOWfI Many times when I've had these discussions with people it boils down to misunderstandings of what Autopilot is vs FSD, or just impressions based on the tech 3 years ago. FSD is far from L4 but it's in a very advanced state compared to other ADAS systems.