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But it didn't work? In yours there is no "Nexus", no smiling, no frowning, and man on right doesn't look Asian? Compared with image in Tweet, MJ failed at this

But it didn't work? In yours there is no "Nexus", no smiling, no frowning, and man on right doesn't look Asian? Compared with image in Tweet, MJ failed at this task.

BoorishBears 3y ago
That depends on what your goal was? If your goal was to get an AI model to generate copyrighted images, and misunderstand the relationship between Indians and Asians, then sure MJ failed (and I'm guessing that's the goal of the prompt). But if I actually wanted a useful picture, I could work with what MJ gave me despite having minimal image editing skills. The DeepFloyd result looks like it's a 8-12 months behind what MJ gave and wouldn't be salvageable.
drcongo 3y ago
In what way does the man on the right not look like he could be from the absolutely enormous continent known as Asia?
- janekm 3y ago
  A human interpreting the prompt would see "asian" as being in contrast to "indian" in the language of the prompt... Not a level of comprehension that can be expected of current models but maybe in a few years (months?).
  - drcongo 3y ago
    I'm human. I interpreted Asian as from a non-specific part of Asia. I realise though that "Asian" has a very specific meaning in the US, but it's only the US that does this. For the rest of the world Asian means someone from Asia.
    - janekm 3y ago
      That's kind of what I meant... If a prompt specifies one "Indian", and one "Asian", that implies that the writer of the prompt doesn't think of Indian as Asian so probably from the US background.
      - drcongo 3y ago
        There's more than two countries in Asia. Could be one Indian and one Sri Lankan, which is what the old dude looks like to me.
- epivosism 3y ago
  Thing is, it's possible to just run experiments against your claim that "actually the bot was doing a good job" https://twitter.com/eb_french/status/1651584746089218049 https://twitter.com/eb_french/status/1651584746089218049 it wasn't. Again, I don't know why everyone is so defensive. I love MJ. There's nothing wrong with admitting that other models might do certain things better. We all can use any model we want.
  - drcongo 3y ago
    I didn't claim the bot was doing a good job. Who was this reply supposed to be aimed at?
  - BoorishBears 3y ago
    There's a certain irony in tweeting ad hominem attacks then claiming people are being defensive...
    - epivosism 3y ago
      Yeah perhaps I was not good at judging tone. To me it's a matter of fact thing that MJ isn't good at this. They'd admit it, it's not a big deal and I'm a fan. It's not ad hominem at all... mj isn't as good at certain types of composition as others. I don't get why people are pretending that isn't the case. I want everyone to have great models and IF is part of that progress. Perhaps calling it "word soup" was offensive? This isn't your religion, though, it's just a model. Listening in on the MJ office hours they're the farthest thing you can be from dogmatic or arrogant. They want to improve as we all do. I personally am just really inspired that everyone can advance together! Also see downthread - the first 32 images I generated attempting to reproduce the claim that "actually MJ can do this" all failed. The person who challenged me then ignored it. This isn't really up for debate until someone sends a seed where mj can do the cube + sphere thing well.
      - BoorishBears 3y ago
        "There's a funny hn thread where people aren't good at arguing or experimentation" is an insult.

But it didn't work? In yours there is no "Nexus", no smiling, no frowning, and man on right doesn't look Asian? Compared with image in Tweet, MJ failed at this task.

BoorishBears 3y ago

That depends on what your goal was? If your goal was to get an AI model to generate copyrighted images, and misunderstand the relationship between Indians and Asians, then sure MJ failed (and I'm guessing that's the goal of the prompt). But if I actually wanted a useful picture, I could work with what MJ gave me despite having minimal image editing skills. The DeepFloyd result looks like it's a 8-12 months behind what MJ gave and wouldn't be salvageable.

drcongo 3y ago

In what way does the man on the right not look like he could be from the absolutely enormous continent known as Asia?

janekm 3y ago
A human interpreting the prompt would see "asian" as being in contrast to "indian" in the language of the prompt... Not a level of comprehension that can be expected of current models but maybe in a few years (months?).
- drcongo 3y ago
  I'm human. I interpreted Asian as from a non-specific part of Asia. I realise though that "Asian" has a very specific meaning in the US, but it's only the US that does this. For the rest of the world Asian means someone from Asia.
  - janekm 3y ago
    That's kind of what I meant... If a prompt specifies one "Indian", and one "Asian", that implies that the writer of the prompt doesn't think of Indian as Asian so probably from the US background.
    - drcongo 3y ago
      There's more than two countries in Asia. Could be one Indian and one Sri Lankan, which is what the old dude looks like to me.
epivosism 3y ago
Thing is, it's possible to just run experiments against your claim that "actually the bot was doing a good job" https://twitter.com/eb_french/status/1651584746089218049 https://twitter.com/eb_french/status/1651584746089218049 it wasn't. Again, I don't know why everyone is so defensive. I love MJ. There's nothing wrong with admitting that other models might do certain things better. We all can use any model we want.
- drcongo 3y ago
  I didn't claim the bot was doing a good job. Who was this reply supposed to be aimed at?
- BoorishBears 3y ago
  There's a certain irony in tweeting ad hominem attacks then claiming people are being defensive...
  - epivosism 3y ago
    Yeah perhaps I was not good at judging tone. To me it's a matter of fact thing that MJ isn't good at this. They'd admit it, it's not a big deal and I'm a fan. It's not ad hominem at all... mj isn't as good at certain types of composition as others. I don't get why people are pretending that isn't the case. I want everyone to have great models and IF is part of that progress. Perhaps calling it "word soup" was offensive? This isn't your religion, though, it's just a model. Listening in on the MJ office hours they're the farthest thing you can be from dogmatic or arrogant. They want to improve as we all do. I personally am just really inspired that everyone can advance together! Also see downthread - the first 32 images I generated attempting to reproduce the claim that "actually MJ can do this" all failed. The person who challenged me then ignored it. This isn't really up for debate until someone sends a seed where mj can do the cube + sphere thing well.
    - BoorishBears 3y ago
      "There's a funny hn thread where people aren't good at arguing or experimentation" is an insult.