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It's because a lot of projects - not just open source (hell, my laptop manufacturer is now linking to their Discord for support) - have moved their support to D

by _cenw 4y ago

It's because a lot of projects - not just open source (hell, my laptop manufacturer is now linking to their Discord for support) - have moved their support to Discord, and finding anything on Discord is a huge pain, even if their indexer decides to work that day.

holler 4y ago
There's a different problem I'm not sure if they've addressed, namely that Google chooses what it wants to index and finds relevant, meaning it's not certain your data will be indexed.
- _cenw 4y ago
  I think that's more down to "Google" being a stand-in for any search engine. Had they written "indexable" the intent would have been less clear.
anentropic 4y ago
It's hard to express how much I dislike Discord as a user why anyone ever thought hyperactive gamer chat was the right way to offer community and support to their tech product is beyond me I also don't want it in Slack - Slack is office chat for my job, I don't want to be adding random other stuff in there Please just use a forum. Discourse seems to be the good/popular one.
- KronisLV 4y ago
  > Please just use a forum. Discourse seems to be the good/popular one. Honestly it's a shame that forums aren't a big thing anymore. I especially loved the look and feel of systems like phpBB or SMF forum software. Just really nice readability and usability, good organization of everything and pretty limited hardware requirements. I'd argue that even better in some ways than Discourse, despite its more modern look. The only problem was that due to how they were deployed (and how many of the PHP codebases were structured), it was challenging to deal with updates and/or plugins.
- waboremo 4y ago
  Forums are still used a lot, you would think this would result in forum software that's great, but no Discourse is a horrible experience by default. Discourse is so horrible people would rather use Discord or Reddit - that's how horrible it is.
  - anentropic 4y ago
    In what way? I think I recognise the Discourse forum software across several sites I've used (correct me if I'm wrong about any of these these someone!): - https://discuss.ocaml.org/ https://discuss.ocaml.org/ - https://forum.rescript-lang.org/ https://forum.rescript-lang.org/ - https://discuss.huggingface.co/ https://discuss.huggingface.co/ - https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ - https://discuss.pytorch.org/ https://discuss.pytorch.org/ - https://forum.strapi.io/ https://forum.strapi.io/ (maybe) I don't know if it's a pain to run for maintainers or something, but as a user I have found the experience on these sites infinitely preferable to Discord
    - waboremo 4y ago
      Marginally better than discord, substantially inferior to older forum software. Still a pain to get going. Thank god someone else like Linen is trying their shot at it, before Discourse kills forums by being terrible. Genuinely don’t know how you prefer it to anything, the only thing it has over Discord is being searchable, the rest is obnoxious. The giant avatar bubbles, the random large numbers thrown everywhere, hiding easy to navigate features from forums in favor of endless scrolling, list goes on.

by _cenw 4y ago

holler 4y ago

There's a different problem I'm not sure if they've addressed, namely that Google chooses what it wants to index and finds relevant, meaning it's not certain your data will be indexed.

_cenw 4y ago
I think that's more down to "Google" being a stand-in for any search engine. Had they written "indexable" the intent would have been less clear.

anentropic 4y ago

It's hard to express how much I dislike Discord as a user why anyone ever thought hyperactive gamer chat was the right way to offer community and support to their tech product is beyond me I also don't want it in Slack - Slack is office chat for my job, I don't want to be adding random other stuff in there Please just use a forum. Discourse seems to be the good/popular one.

KronisLV 4y ago
> Please just use a forum. Discourse seems to be the good/popular one. Honestly it's a shame that forums aren't a big thing anymore. I especially loved the look and feel of systems like phpBB or SMF forum software. Just really nice readability and usability, good organization of everything and pretty limited hardware requirements. I'd argue that even better in some ways than Discourse, despite its more modern look. The only problem was that due to how they were deployed (and how many of the PHP codebases were structured), it was challenging to deal with updates and/or plugins.
waboremo 4y ago
Forums are still used a lot, you would think this would result in forum software that's great, but no Discourse is a horrible experience by default. Discourse is so horrible people would rather use Discord or Reddit - that's how horrible it is.
- anentropic 4y ago
  In what way? I think I recognise the Discourse forum software across several sites I've used (correct me if I'm wrong about any of these these someone!): - https://discuss.ocaml.org/ https://discuss.ocaml.org/ - https://forum.rescript-lang.org/ https://forum.rescript-lang.org/ - https://discuss.huggingface.co/ https://discuss.huggingface.co/ - https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ - https://discuss.pytorch.org/ https://discuss.pytorch.org/ - https://forum.strapi.io/ https://forum.strapi.io/ (maybe) I don't know if it's a pain to run for maintainers or something, but as a user I have found the experience on these sites infinitely preferable to Discord
  - waboremo 4y ago
    Marginally better than discord, substantially inferior to older forum software. Still a pain to get going. Thank god someone else like Linen is trying their shot at it, before Discourse kills forums by being terrible. Genuinely don’t know how you prefer it to anything, the only thing it has over Discord is being searchable, the rest is obnoxious. The giant avatar bubbles, the random large numbers thrown everywhere, hiding easy to navigate features from forums in favor of endless scrolling, list goes on.