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>It's not that people don't want to be competent. There are plenty of devs that are just there for the paycheck and have minimal passion or interest in learnin

>It's not that people don't want to be competent. There are plenty of devs that are just there for the paycheck and have minimal passion or interest in learning more.

hikawaii 4y ago
It's often not about learning more, the techniques and methods in Casey Muratori's streams are often very well understood and even taught in school. Dismissing people as just being there for the paycheck - that's you and every other developer. The number of people who produce useful OSS projects because they just like the project and aren't filling out resume points to hope bigtech senpai notices them is astronomically small, and usually the sort of political project nobody wants to touch.
globalreset 4y ago
True, but it's normal in many professions that lots of people working in it are not passionate and industry just deals with it. We can't expect that average software developer is going to be passionate and spending their weekends honing every-increasing set of skills: technologies, platforms, tools, etc.
- eastbound 4y ago
  Can’t we? The entire startup ecosystem is based on extracting from the economy people who are motivated, do their work efficiently and learn high skills, and giving them millionaire-or-bankrupt stakes to ensure they’re committed.
  - UK-Al05 4y ago
    The expected value from start-up shares is so low, you're bit of idiot if you're degrading your life for it. Actual founder? Sure. Early employees get a raw deal. Honestly it better if you earn the most from salary, and invest the extra cash in startups. You'll get more equity.
Ekaros 4y ago
So can't we just give those well metrics to get under. Or tell them that make it feel "snappy". And not accept the result until it feels good enough. They are paid to do a job. Just have to specify what that job is in a correct way.

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>It's not that people don't want to be competent. There are plenty of devs that are just there for the paycheck and have minimal passion or interest in learnin

by HideousKojima 4y ago

>It's not that people don't want to be competent. There are plenty of devs that are just there for the paycheck and have minimal passion or interest in learning more.

hikawaii 4y ago
It's often not about learning more, the techniques and methods in Casey Muratori's streams are often very well understood and even taught in school. Dismissing people as just being there for the paycheck - that's you and every other developer. The number of people who produce useful OSS projects because they just like the project and aren't filling out resume points to hope bigtech senpai notices them is astronomically small, and usually the sort of political project nobody wants to touch.
globalreset 4y ago
True, but it's normal in many professions that lots of people working in it are not passionate and industry just deals with it. We can't expect that average software developer is going to be passionate and spending their weekends honing every-increasing set of skills: technologies, platforms, tools, etc.
- eastbound 4y ago
  Can’t we? The entire startup ecosystem is based on extracting from the economy people who are motivated, do their work efficiently and learn high skills, and giving them millionaire-or-bankrupt stakes to ensure they’re committed.
  - UK-Al05 4y ago
    The expected value from start-up shares is so low, you're bit of idiot if you're degrading your life for it. Actual founder? Sure. Early employees get a raw deal. Honestly it better if you earn the most from salary, and invest the extra cash in startups. You'll get more equity.
Ekaros 4y ago
So can't we just give those well metrics to get under. Or tell them that make it feel "snappy". And not accept the result until it feels good enough. They are paid to do a job. Just have to specify what that job is in a correct way.