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I'm one that believes that the root cause for the happiness is hope. No matter what happens if you believe that God will catch you and is taking care of you the

I'm one that believes that the root cause for the happiness is hope. No matter what happens if you believe that God will catch you and is taking care of you then you will never fall into a deep sadness. Whether it is true or delusional, believing in God makes a difference in people's lives.

alejojonas 3y ago
Your conclusion is very reminiscent of the mouse-hope experiment. Very fascinating.
- WheelsAtLarge 3y ago
  Had never heard of the experiment until now but, yes, that's exactly the case.
seandrawling 3y ago
Hope is just “optimistic nihilism”. It’s not feeling guilty for existing and just experiencing being human. Humanoids went millions of years collaborating before language, building muscle memory for enough heat, food, water, etc. and navigating 3D space. IMO human language is behind all human atrocity of scale. Implanting and reinforcing hallucinations. It’s 2D written form decouples us from interaction with realities color gradients, range of sounds, distribution of matter. It’s thought in a box; constrained to socially acceptable list of appropriate semantics. Be optimistic but also don’t care if we all die. Simple framework that eschews all the human language religion relies on. We sure feel like we accomplished something learning English but humans were tackling our real challenges before language came about. Language processing feels like work but it’s really just parroting tropes that are meaningless.
Semonto 3y ago
Or the only women left to believe in god are those who didn't face gods wraith in sense of being raped, beaten, gotten cancer or left with no money. Independent of this, I can't believe in god as it doesn't make any sense to do so for me. For me believing would mean ignoring everything which makes god either non existent or a really really shitty asshole god. Believe would be for me borderline dillusional
nickthegreek 3y ago
You don't think that anyone who truly believes in a God has fallen into a deep sadness? I think some slaves & jewish people would like to have a word with you.

alejojonas 3y ago

Your conclusion is very reminiscent of the mouse-hope experiment. Very fascinating.

WheelsAtLarge 3y ago
Had never heard of the experiment until now but, yes, that's exactly the case.

seandrawling 3y ago

Hope is just “optimistic nihilism”. It’s not feeling guilty for existing and just experiencing being human. Humanoids went millions of years collaborating before language, building muscle memory for enough heat, food, water, etc. and navigating 3D space. IMO human language is behind all human atrocity of scale. Implanting and reinforcing hallucinations. It’s 2D written form decouples us from interaction with realities color gradients, range of sounds, distribution of matter. It’s thought in a box; constrained to socially acceptable list of appropriate semantics. Be optimistic but also don’t care if we all die. Simple framework that eschews all the human language religion relies on. We sure feel like we accomplished something learning English but humans were tackling our real challenges before language came about. Language processing feels like work but it’s really just parroting tropes that are meaningless.

Semonto 3y ago

Or the only women left to believe in god are those who didn't face gods wraith in sense of being raped, beaten, gotten cancer or left with no money. Independent of this, I can't believe in god as it doesn't make any sense to do so for me. For me believing would mean ignoring everything which makes god either non existent or a really really shitty asshole god. Believe would be for me borderline dillusional

nickthegreek 3y ago

You don't think that anyone who truly believes in a God has fallen into a deep sadness? I think some slaves & jewish people would like to have a word with you.