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Someone should do something like this smart knob[0]. It looks incredible. [0] https://youtu.be/ip641WmY4pA?t=58 https://youtu.be/ip641WmY4pA?t=58

diziet 3y ago
The BMW X-Drive controller is somewhat similar with additional up/down/left/right buttons
- bdavbdav 3y ago
  Yep - very similar. You can navigate huge lists by spinning it fast and it freewheels. Its a pretty nicely designed interface.
hinkley 3y ago
There's an older 'smart' knob out there that was meant I think for CAD interfaces. I don't recall if it's made anymore, but I do know that it's shown up on the bridge of a number of scifi aircraft/spaceships over the last decade. But for the purposes of this discussion, having a couple three of those on the dashboard and using them a bit like radial menus would probably split the difference pretty well.
- speedbird 3y ago
  https://3dconnexion.com/us/product/spacemouse-compact/ https://3dconnexion.com/us/product/spacemouse-compact/
  - hinkley 3y ago
    That's the one! Looks like they still make it. Not sure why I thought they stopped. I thought I saw it most recently on The Expanse, but it does not appear to be part of the MCRN Frigate pilot's seat. So either I'm thinking of some other ship, or a different bridge.
robocat 3y ago
Neat. Jog control knobs are great when you want fine control over a large dynamic range. They can feel wrong when used for for controlling a limited range that only needs coarse tuning. My microwave has a rotary encoder for the power level (10% to 100%) and it just feels so wrong that it doesn’t have a limit but can just keep turning (actually a slider would be a lovely UI for power level, however the knob is multi-functional and also sliders are harder to keep clean and physically reliable). My cheap stereo has a similar rotary encoder for the volume - uggggh.
- yellowapple 3y ago
  I feel like it should be feasible to add a motor that gives tactile feedback by resisting turning by a little bit (e.g. for discrete power/volume level values within the allowed range) or a lotta bit (e.g. for the boundaries of said range). Re: multi-functional sliders, I do know that motorized sliders exist in the pro audio space (e.g. to be able to program presets on mixers and such); shouldn't be too hard to adapt them to multiple functions (probably with some sort of indicator on or adjacent to the slider to show the function being manipulated).
  - vonnieda 3y ago
    Just FYI what you’ve described is exactly what the GPs video shows. I only mention it cause that knob and video are absolutely amazing and deserves a watch.
    - yellowapple 3y ago
      Well I'll be. That's what I get for not watching videos before replying lmao

diziet 3y ago

The BMW X-Drive controller is somewhat similar with additional up/down/left/right buttons

bdavbdav 3y ago
Yep - very similar. You can navigate huge lists by spinning it fast and it freewheels. Its a pretty nicely designed interface.

hinkley 3y ago

There's an older 'smart' knob out there that was meant I think for CAD interfaces. I don't recall if it's made anymore, but I do know that it's shown up on the bridge of a number of scifi aircraft/spaceships over the last decade. But for the purposes of this discussion, having a couple three of those on the dashboard and using them a bit like radial menus would probably split the difference pretty well.

speedbird 3y ago
https://3dconnexion.com/us/product/spacemouse-compact/ https://3dconnexion.com/us/product/spacemouse-compact/
- hinkley 3y ago
  That's the one! Looks like they still make it. Not sure why I thought they stopped. I thought I saw it most recently on The Expanse, but it does not appear to be part of the MCRN Frigate pilot's seat. So either I'm thinking of some other ship, or a different bridge.

robocat 3y ago

Neat. Jog control knobs are great when you want fine control over a large dynamic range. They can feel wrong when used for for controlling a limited range that only needs coarse tuning. My microwave has a rotary encoder for the power level (10% to 100%) and it just feels so wrong that it doesn’t have a limit but can just keep turning (actually a slider would be a lovely UI for power level, however the knob is multi-functional and also sliders are harder to keep clean and physically reliable). My cheap stereo has a similar rotary encoder for the volume - uggggh.

yellowapple 3y ago
I feel like it should be feasible to add a motor that gives tactile feedback by resisting turning by a little bit (e.g. for discrete power/volume level values within the allowed range) or a lotta bit (e.g. for the boundaries of said range). Re: multi-functional sliders, I do know that motorized sliders exist in the pro audio space (e.g. to be able to program presets on mixers and such); shouldn't be too hard to adapt them to multiple functions (probably with some sort of indicator on or adjacent to the slider to show the function being manipulated).
- vonnieda 3y ago
  Just FYI what you’ve described is exactly what the GPs video shows. I only mention it cause that knob and video are absolutely amazing and deserves a watch.
  - yellowapple 3y ago
    Well I'll be. That's what I get for not watching videos before replying lmao