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This specific case (EXPO) is a grey area. I personally don't like overclocking, yet I've always enabled EXPO, for many reasons. First, because the producers o
by pizza234 4y ago
This specific case (EXPO) is a grey area.
I personally don't like overclocking, yet I've always enabled EXPO, for many reasons.
First, because the producers of my RAM modules advertise it very clearly as feature; AMD advertises it quite loudly (https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/expo https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/expo) as well. I think (not 100% sure) that it's even often set in RAM benchmarks .
Modern systems have very aggressive frequencies/dynamic frequency scaling, which blurs the limit of what constitutes overclocking. Intel sells unlocked models of CPUs that are supposedly can be "overclocked" (https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/gaming/overclocking-intel-processors.html https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/gaming/overclockin...).
Many RAM producers sell modules based on their tolerance, so the fact that they're pushed to the limit - within the spec - is part of the sale.
Having said that, I definitely draw the line to using voltages (or anything else) that are outside the specification, and I consider crossing it overclocking.
Ultimately however, EXPO is a specification, so I don't consider it overclocking.
- formerly_proven 4y agoOn AM4 many boards set too high IOD voltages when enabling XMP. Afaik no detrimental impact except about 10 W superfluous power draw. It doesn’t seem particularly far-fetched that EXPO might suffer from the same issue except it accidentally sets batshit voltages instead of just too high. Afaik the SoC and IMC supplies are unsophisticated, there is no DVS going on, just BIOS setting a particular voltage in the VRM.
- vel0city 4y agoI agree. If the RAM module is on the QVL, the RAM module has an EXPO profile, the EXPO profile should be considered as in spec IMO.
- Dalewyn 4y ago>Ultimately however, EXPO is a specification, so I don't consider it overclocking. The O in EXPO stands for overclocking, and if that wasn't clear enough AMD themselves state using the whole word that EXPO is overclocking numerous times repeatedly.[1] [1]: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/expo https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/expo