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Can you actually point to the data that says Millennial and Gen Z teachers have worse interpersonal skills than those of previous generations? Let alone point t

by mym1990 4y ago

Can you actually point to the data that says Millennial and Gen Z teachers have worse interpersonal skills than those of previous generations? Let alone point to data that says on aggregate Millennials and Gen Z workers have bad interpersonal skills? From the teachers I have come across within these 2 generations, they seem to be incredibly intelligent and personable. You saying that good teachers with robust interpersonal skills are expensive and rare just shows that you haven't stepped into a school recently, or haven't conversed with a teacher for more than 20 seconds.

no_wizard 4y ago
I'd like to piggy back on that and ask about any data that even supports the general thesis that Gen Z and younger Millennials have poor interpersonal skills, as that's how I took the assertion.
legitster 4y ago
It's a hard thing to find hard data for, but it's documented: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2868990/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2868990/ (We do however, have lots of studies that show grade inflation is real: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_inflation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_inflation) > From the teachers I have come across within these 2 generations, they seem to be incredibly intelligent and personable. I wouldn't argue that millenials are dumber or meaner (my generation, btw), but I think it would also be wrong to mistake our expressed sensitivity and aversion for conflict as actual interpersonal skill. And if we are talking about needing to pay teachers more so that we can attract better skilled teachers, what other skill would we be talking about?
- verall 4y ago
  I couldn't find anything in that article that supports your assertion, but I only skimmed it. It does seem to imply the opposite: > We review these purported characteristics, as well as Millennials’ more positive qualities—they work well in teams, are motivated to have an impact on their organizations, favor open and frequent communication with their supervisors, and are at ease with communication technologies.
- mym1990 4y ago
  Almost everything in that study points to newer generations seeking more open communication and a general skew towards more positive communication(which is seen as a weakness by boomers), which hardly seems like a downward trajectory for “interpersonal” anything. Comparing inter generational differences seems like a pointless circus. For as much flack as gen z and millennials get, we are still building rockets to Mars, creating diverse workplaces, advancing medicine, etc…the world is still going onwards!

no_wizard 4y ago

I'd like to piggy back on that and ask about any data that even supports the general thesis that Gen Z and younger Millennials have poor interpersonal skills, as that's how I took the assertion.

legitster 4y ago

It's a hard thing to find hard data for, but it's documented: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2868990/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2868990/ (We do however, have lots of studies that show grade inflation is real: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_inflation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_inflation) > From the teachers I have come across within these 2 generations, they seem to be incredibly intelligent and personable. I wouldn't argue that millenials are dumber or meaner (my generation, btw), but I think it would also be wrong to mistake our expressed sensitivity and aversion for conflict as actual interpersonal skill. And if we are talking about needing to pay teachers more so that we can attract better skilled teachers, what other skill would we be talking about?

verall 4y ago
I couldn't find anything in that article that supports your assertion, but I only skimmed it. It does seem to imply the opposite: > We review these purported characteristics, as well as Millennials’ more positive qualities—they work well in teams, are motivated to have an impact on their organizations, favor open and frequent communication with their supervisors, and are at ease with communication technologies.
mym1990 4y ago
Almost everything in that study points to newer generations seeking more open communication and a general skew towards more positive communication(which is seen as a weakness by boomers), which hardly seems like a downward trajectory for “interpersonal” anything. Comparing inter generational differences seems like a pointless circus. For as much flack as gen z and millennials get, we are still building rockets to Mars, creating diverse workplaces, advancing medicine, etc…the world is still going onwards!