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> Good jobs are difficult to come by if you don't have a college degree. what awful logic. this is exactly what's wrong with america. we've been taught this ex

by zomg 3y ago

> Good jobs are difficult to come by if you don't have a college degree. what awful logic. this is exactly what's wrong with america. we've been taught this exact sentiment and it will be our demise. so, what if every college closed tomorrow? my god, how would we get jobs?! i had a friend who started mowing lawns in high school, after he got his driver's license. i genuinely looked down on him because he mowed laws to make a living. what kind of career is that?! i knew i was superior for going to college... the result? he owns a multi-million dollar landscaping firm, employing dozens of people, drives a fully-loaded company vehicle (which is replaced every 2 years), and he makes GOBS of money loving what he does. the lesson here is that you actually don't NEED a college degree, but we sure as hell have been programmed to think otherwise. too many kids are forced into college, take on massive amounts of debt, when they were better off going into gasp the trades!

theandrewbailey 3y ago
> he owns a multi-million dollar landscaping firm, employing dozens of people That's fantastic for your friend, but the vast majority of people don't want to be entrepreneurs. Can those dozens of employees under him (presumably without degrees) support a family, a mortgage, healthcare, AND save for the future on that one income? > too many kids are forced into college, take on massive amounts of debt, when they were better off going into gasp the trades! The school-to-college funnel is a flaw in the system, but it's too late for many who already have the debt.
chimpanzee 3y ago
>> Good jobs are difficult to come by if you don't have a college degree. > what awful logic…[anecdote]…the lesson here is that you actually don't NEED a college degree… Do you see the straw man you erected? GP never once claimed that a college degree was “needed”, only that lacking one made life more difficult. An effective counter-argument against that would certainly consist of more than a single anecdote.

by zomg 3y ago

theandrewbailey 3y ago

> he owns a multi-million dollar landscaping firm, employing dozens of people That's fantastic for your friend, but the vast majority of people don't want to be entrepreneurs. Can those dozens of employees under him (presumably without degrees) support a family, a mortgage, healthcare, AND save for the future on that one income? > too many kids are forced into college, take on massive amounts of debt, when they were better off going into gasp the trades! The school-to-college funnel is a flaw in the system, but it's too late for many who already have the debt.

chimpanzee 3y ago

>> Good jobs are difficult to come by if you don't have a college degree. > what awful logic…[anecdote]…the lesson here is that you actually don't NEED a college degree… Do you see the straw man you erected? GP never once claimed that a college degree was “needed”, only that lacking one made life more difficult. An effective counter-argument against that would certainly consist of more than a single anecdote.