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I think this is a bit of a stretch from tomshardware, as if you actually read the statement https://i.imgur.com/pM358j6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pM358j6.jpg it d

by kimixa 4y ago

I think this is a bit of a stretch from tomshardware, as if you actually read the statement https://i.imgur.com/pM358j6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pM358j6.jpg it doesn't actually say what the problem is, or even that there is a problem. Just they released a new BIOS that has more limitations. And the other "evidence" of a photo of a damaged pin pad on a ryzen processor shows the damaged pins aren't related to the SoC rail mentioned in the article.

JimBo72 4y ago
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- kimixa 4y ago
  The only thing I can see in the article that supports that is: "Our sources also added further details about the nature of the chip failures — in some cases, excessive SoC voltages destroy the chips' thermal sensors and thermal protection mechanisms, completely disabling its only means of detecting and protecting itself from overheating" And "Our Sources" aren't motherboard vendor statements, none of the statements from motherboard vendors or AMD themselves support this theory, so we're relying on Tom's unnamed "sources" rather than any public evidence or statement. This is exactly what I dislike - the slow removal of the source and quality of evidence and information. It's Toms being bad too, as their statement "seconded by an ASUS statement to Der8auer, the problem stems from SoC voltages" does not seem a good representation of the actual statement - the image of which I linked.
  - JimBo72 4y ago
    ASUS pointing out that they are defining new rules for vCore and SoC voltage to address these issues is in fact pointing to that as the issue. They aren't just "throwing that in there" because it is unrelated. If you need it to be even more direct, here is the statement from ASUS that says it is SoC voltage. https://twitter.com/ASUSTechMKTJJ/status/1650920434404331520 https://twitter.com/ASUSTechMKTJJ/status/1650920434404331520 Here is the statement from Biostar that says SoC voltages are being limited: https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/news/news.php?S_ID=559 https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/news/news.php?S_ID=559 You've admitted that you work for AMD, which would make a casual observer think that you are being biased in your comments. There is verifiable proof of the correlation with SoC voltage from the ODMs themselves.
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by kimixa 4y ago

JimBo72 4y ago

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kimixa 4y ago
The only thing I can see in the article that supports that is: "Our sources also added further details about the nature of the chip failures — in some cases, excessive SoC voltages destroy the chips' thermal sensors and thermal protection mechanisms, completely disabling its only means of detecting and protecting itself from overheating" And "Our Sources" aren't motherboard vendor statements, none of the statements from motherboard vendors or AMD themselves support this theory, so we're relying on Tom's unnamed "sources" rather than any public evidence or statement. This is exactly what I dislike - the slow removal of the source and quality of evidence and information. It's Toms being bad too, as their statement "seconded by an ASUS statement to Der8auer, the problem stems from SoC voltages" does not seem a good representation of the actual statement - the image of which I linked.
- JimBo72 4y ago
  ASUS pointing out that they are defining new rules for vCore and SoC voltage to address these issues is in fact pointing to that as the issue. They aren't just "throwing that in there" because it is unrelated. If you need it to be even more direct, here is the statement from ASUS that says it is SoC voltage. https://twitter.com/ASUSTechMKTJJ/status/1650920434404331520 https://twitter.com/ASUSTechMKTJJ/status/1650920434404331520 Here is the statement from Biostar that says SoC voltages are being limited: https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/news/news.php?S_ID=559 https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/news/news.php?S_ID=559 You've admitted that you work for AMD, which would make a casual observer think that you are being biased in your comments. There is verifiable proof of the correlation with SoC voltage from the ODMs themselves.
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