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Wow. Fine for what? Gag order? Does not help them. Legality? That would count, if it was something I could order them to do, but again, what do you think wou

by bipson 3y ago

Wow. Fine for what? Gag order? Does not help them. Legality? That would count, if it was something I could order them to do, but again, what do you think would happen there? "Dear Google, we know you have user TechBro8615@gmail.com, could you please: - Go through all your data, and gather which Accounts for which services TechBro8615 has - Go through all these accounts TechBro8615 has with every possible service and reset all his passwords with these accounts (without him noticing) - And use the second factor TechBro8615 has to login - Make a user data takeout for all the data TechBro8615 has with all these services - Create an index of this data, because, well we ask you to, although we can't make you do that - Tell us if TechBro8615 likes Cranberry juice??? Legality does matter, if you request something from third parties. Why on earth should Google ever cooperate beyond step 1? Would you do that?!

TechBro8615 3y ago
My comment is referencing what was documented to happen during 2013: the NSA compelled tech companies to turn over user data under threat of jailing the executives and fining the company huge amounts. They don't need to ask Google for data from other companies. They can compel them to provide the passwords or authentication codes which are stored on Google's servers. Or they could just ask for a list of which accounts have a saved password, so they know who to target next with an NSL.
- bipson 3y ago
  Dude. Everything you said is correct, but: I responded to > Google could be requested to peer not just into the user's google account, but into accounts they have with other companies/organisations too Your response to my response should somehow relate to that.
  - TechBro8615 3y ago
    Well in that case, after rereading your comment I guess I agree with you. I don't think the government would deputize Google to effectively hack into other companies on their behalf. I wouldn't put it past them to ask for a backdoor into a user's device, but I doubt Google would comply with that (although there is precedent for Google remotely installing Covid tracking apps on devices in Massachusetts).

by bipson 3y ago

TechBro8615 3y ago

My comment is referencing what was documented to happen during 2013: the NSA compelled tech companies to turn over user data under threat of jailing the executives and fining the company huge amounts. They don't need to ask Google for data from other companies. They can compel them to provide the passwords or authentication codes which are stored on Google's servers. Or they could just ask for a list of which accounts have a saved password, so they know who to target next with an NSL.

bipson 3y ago
Dude. Everything you said is correct, but: I responded to > Google could be requested to peer not just into the user's google account, but into accounts they have with other companies/organisations too Your response to my response should somehow relate to that.
- TechBro8615 3y ago
  Well in that case, after rereading your comment I guess I agree with you. I don't think the government would deputize Google to effectively hack into other companies on their behalf. I wouldn't put it past them to ask for a backdoor into a user's device, but I doubt Google would comply with that (although there is precedent for Google remotely installing Covid tracking apps on devices in Massachusetts).