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"Our cars are safe" "Show us unbiased data proving it" "If it were unsafe, we would know" Sigh. I own a Tesla and use FSD, but thanks for assuming.

• ajross 3y ago
  They did show the data. You want to throw the data out instead of believing it. Nitpicks aren't winning arguments, and you know that. I'm saying that if you want to argue with someone's data, you need to argue with data and not just that some different experiment would be better. What the linked article is doing is just excuse-making, basically.
  • ra7 3y ago
    Huh, what? It's completely reasonable to question the methodology. That's not nitpicking. I get it. You want to take the data at face value without questioning anything.
    • ajross 3y ago
      To be blunt: I don't take your words here to be a dispassionate "questioning of methodology". If that was your goal, you would at least nod to the numbers and the clear fact that even if the measurements were confounded they probably point to a safe system. I'm not saying take it at face value at all. I'm happy to discuss methodology and to admit that the numbers on Tesla's site amount to something closer to marketing than science. But nonetheless, the cars remain safe. This methodology would have to be outrageously confounded to produce a result like this for an unsafe car, and you know it.