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>“At the time, our client had refrained from asserting this claim, but now feels unable to be lenient here. She incurred legal fees for defending against the ob

by Imnimo 3y ago

>“At the time, our client had refrained from asserting this claim, but now feels unable to be lenient here. She incurred legal fees for defending against the obviously unjustified warning you issued, which our client will not bear herself.”

lisasays 3y ago
The issue is definitely not obvious to a non-tech person. It isn't even obvious to me why text-image pairs should be considered, by default, public domain and fully commercializable by any and all. The bigger point is that in all probability, the client's costs were minor (<10k), and these kinds of bumps and scrapes that happen (and what one needs to budget for) when choosing to to push forward with a large-scale and obviously controversial project. So discretion (and concern for the project's overall public image) would call for using a feather rather than a sledgehammer here, as I see it.
- sheepdestroyer 3y ago
  For a mostly solo volunteer projet, supported by an individual who works as a high school teacher (so, not crazy-silicon-valley-rich), any such abusive costs are probably unsustainable. Your figure of "<10k" that you consider as "minor" shows that you have no idea how people get by. They were kind enough to explain in advance how they would proceed if the complainant pursued in their misguided attack, how more agreeable do you want them to be without similar complaints drowning them out?
  - lisasays 3y ago
    According to https://laion.ai/team/ https://laion.ai/team/ the project has mushroomed a bit and (if I recall from other sources) has something of a budget. And it sure looks like they are positioning themselves to spin this off into some kind of financially self-sustaining entity (even if they aren't interested in selling out just yet). So when I said "minor" not in comparison to his day job salary but as in, you know, the scheme of things. You have no idea how people get by. Gosh, it seems you know everything about me.

by Imnimo 3y ago

lisasays 3y ago

The issue is definitely not obvious to a non-tech person. It isn't even obvious to me why text-image pairs should be considered, by default, public domain and fully commercializable by any and all. The bigger point is that in all probability, the client's costs were minor (<10k), and these kinds of bumps and scrapes that happen (and what one needs to budget for) when choosing to to push forward with a large-scale and obviously controversial project. So discretion (and concern for the project's overall public image) would call for using a feather rather than a sledgehammer here, as I see it.

sheepdestroyer 3y ago
For a mostly solo volunteer projet, supported by an individual who works as a high school teacher (so, not crazy-silicon-valley-rich), any such abusive costs are probably unsustainable. Your figure of "<10k" that you consider as "minor" shows that you have no idea how people get by. They were kind enough to explain in advance how they would proceed if the complainant pursued in their misguided attack, how more agreeable do you want them to be without similar complaints drowning them out?
- lisasays 3y ago
  According to https://laion.ai/team/ https://laion.ai/team/ the project has mushroomed a bit and (if I recall from other sources) has something of a budget. And it sure looks like they are positioning themselves to spin this off into some kind of financially self-sustaining entity (even if they aren't interested in selling out just yet). So when I said "minor" not in comparison to his day job salary but as in, you know, the scheme of things. You have no idea how people get by. Gosh, it seems you know everything about me.