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Agree. My wife LOVES netflix's Korean rom-com shoes because of how straightforwardly cute they are. >Anyway I hope the growing popularity of foreign shows lead

Agree. My wife LOVES netflix's Korean rom-com shoes because of how straightforwardly cute they are. >Anyway I hope the growing popularity of foreign shows leads to western media taking time to reassess what people are looking for in shows. Agree. The age of everything being ironic, sassy, and whiny needs to end.

sho_hn 3y ago
> The age of everything being ironic, sassy, and whiny needs to end. Looking at you, modern Star Trek - a prime example of ironic, sassy and whiny not necessarily being any smarter.
- imbnwa 3y ago
  Eh, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds captured the blend of levity and somber urgency that populated the seasons of original Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation
  - midoridensha 3y ago
    That's not the Star Trek series the OP is referring to... Honestly, I'm shocked that SNW even came out, after seeing what an abomination Discovery was.
- reaperducer 3y ago
  And not every science fiction show has to be a sermon on later-day ethics and values in every single episode. Looking at you, The Orville. And not every science fiction show has to evolve into a horror/zombie series. Looking at you, Firefly.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
    > horror/zombie series I have never heard this said about Firefly. I consider the show to be more about human experimenting and creating super soldiers (River Tam) and that it just got cancelled before they could really get into it. I guess Serenity was more about conflicts with Reavers but I wouldn't exactly pin the Horror/Zombie label on the series because of that.
  - Apocryphon 3y ago
    Firefly is over twenty years old at this point, it's no longer a contemporary sci-fi show, and its status as a cult classic is really played out at this point, let it go. That said, it is funny how the much more recent and relevant The Expanse did have horror/zombie elements.
golergka 3y ago
Post-post and meta-meta concepts were really cool and interesting when they first popped up in indie circles back in the 90s, and even when they hit the mainstream in the late 00s. But now it feels like we've seen all these jokes, fourth wall breaks, and gritty, realistic remakes of everything. Instead of seeming like a writer's original ideas inspired by the real world, it just looks like they're copying from other shows and movies for no better reason than "everybody is doing it." Honestly, it's time to move on and find some other way to tell stories.
- ekabod 3y ago
  >Honestly, it's time to move on and find some other way to tell stories. I hope not, I want more 'Barry' or 'Succession' or 'Better Call Saul' even if they share some already seen templates.
  - golergka 3y ago
    I love all these shows, but they are building their own storytelling techniques instead of trying to repeat Community. Which was awesome and still looks great, but inspired too many mediocre screenwriters in 2010s.

sho_hn 3y ago

> The age of everything being ironic, sassy, and whiny needs to end. Looking at you, modern Star Trek - a prime example of ironic, sassy and whiny not necessarily being any smarter.

imbnwa 3y ago
Eh, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds captured the blend of levity and somber urgency that populated the seasons of original Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation
- midoridensha 3y ago
  That's not the Star Trek series the OP is referring to... Honestly, I'm shocked that SNW even came out, after seeing what an abomination Discovery was.
reaperducer 3y ago
And not every science fiction show has to be a sermon on later-day ethics and values in every single episode. Looking at you, The Orville. And not every science fiction show has to evolve into a horror/zombie series. Looking at you, Firefly.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  > horror/zombie series I have never heard this said about Firefly. I consider the show to be more about human experimenting and creating super soldiers (River Tam) and that it just got cancelled before they could really get into it. I guess Serenity was more about conflicts with Reavers but I wouldn't exactly pin the Horror/Zombie label on the series because of that.
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  Firefly is over twenty years old at this point, it's no longer a contemporary sci-fi show, and its status as a cult classic is really played out at this point, let it go. That said, it is funny how the much more recent and relevant The Expanse did have horror/zombie elements.

golergka 3y ago

Post-post and meta-meta concepts were really cool and interesting when they first popped up in indie circles back in the 90s, and even when they hit the mainstream in the late 00s. But now it feels like we've seen all these jokes, fourth wall breaks, and gritty, realistic remakes of everything. Instead of seeming like a writer's original ideas inspired by the real world, it just looks like they're copying from other shows and movies for no better reason than "everybody is doing it." Honestly, it's time to move on and find some other way to tell stories.

ekabod 3y ago
>Honestly, it's time to move on and find some other way to tell stories. I hope not, I want more 'Barry' or 'Succession' or 'Better Call Saul' even if they share some already seen templates.
- golergka 3y ago
  I love all these shows, but they are building their own storytelling techniques instead of trying to repeat Community. Which was awesome and still looks great, but inspired too many mediocre screenwriters in 2010s.