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The ChatGPT 4 developer demo showcased literally all three of those. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-watch-first-demo-chatgpt-4/ https://www.dig

The ChatGPT 4 developer demo showcased literally all three of those. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-watch-first-demo-chatgpt-4/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-watch-first-d...

spaceman_2020 3y ago
According to HN, technology never improves. The first version of something is always the way it will ever be. OpenAI hasn't improved at all from GPT-3 to GPT-4, and all the billions flowing into this field will cause zero improvements in the next 30 years. This place needs to change its name to LudditeNews.
- majewsky 3y ago
  The main concern of the luddites was not "technology = bad" like most popular caricatures of them, but that their livelihood was obliterated by the first wave of factory owners taking all the profits that were previously shared with the workers for themselves. Really they were pushing in the same direction as those who today are calling for machine taxes or UBI.
  - Sugimot0 3y ago
    Ehhh I'd argue they had more in common with socialists/communists, they were literally destroying the means of production in worker solidarity to improve their condition and bargaining ability. Marx even refers directly to the situation of the guilds in industrialization. The belief is that new means of production should be embraced, owned, and operated by workers to benefit the many and not just the few exploitative capitalists (which are those who own means of production). Instead of exploiting lay-offs and long shifts, and disregarding safety to save the capitalist money, the factory would instead be built and operated for the benefit of workers and society, prioritizing safety and sharing shorter shifts among a larger workforce to preserve jobs. From a socialist/communist perspective machine taxes and UBI are like cheap bribes to avoid the issue and preserve the exploitative system in place. The luddites probably would have felt the same had they been offered a pity sum or machine tax from factory owners to "offset" their condition.
bombolo 3y ago
Lol, I talked about very short snippets and you counter my argument with a video showing very short snippets. If I wasn't scared before, I'm even less scared now. But if all you do is write trivial code anyone can learn to write in 1 week, with extremely detailed instructions, perhaps your job is in danger indeed. That's not what a software engineer does anyway.
- spaceman_2020 3y ago
  You completely ignored my original point about this tech replacing the bottom 80%ile of coders, not the top 20%.
  - bombolo 3y ago
    Maybe it can replace the bottom 1%

spaceman_2020 3y ago

According to HN, technology never improves. The first version of something is always the way it will ever be. OpenAI hasn't improved at all from GPT-3 to GPT-4, and all the billions flowing into this field will cause zero improvements in the next 30 years. This place needs to change its name to LudditeNews.

majewsky 3y ago
The main concern of the luddites was not "technology = bad" like most popular caricatures of them, but that their livelihood was obliterated by the first wave of factory owners taking all the profits that were previously shared with the workers for themselves. Really they were pushing in the same direction as those who today are calling for machine taxes or UBI.
- Sugimot0 3y ago
  Ehhh I'd argue they had more in common with socialists/communists, they were literally destroying the means of production in worker solidarity to improve their condition and bargaining ability. Marx even refers directly to the situation of the guilds in industrialization. The belief is that new means of production should be embraced, owned, and operated by workers to benefit the many and not just the few exploitative capitalists (which are those who own means of production). Instead of exploiting lay-offs and long shifts, and disregarding safety to save the capitalist money, the factory would instead be built and operated for the benefit of workers and society, prioritizing safety and sharing shorter shifts among a larger workforce to preserve jobs. From a socialist/communist perspective machine taxes and UBI are like cheap bribes to avoid the issue and preserve the exploitative system in place. The luddites probably would have felt the same had they been offered a pity sum or machine tax from factory owners to "offset" their condition.

bombolo 3y ago

Lol, I talked about very short snippets and you counter my argument with a video showing very short snippets. If I wasn't scared before, I'm even less scared now. But if all you do is write trivial code anyone can learn to write in 1 week, with extremely detailed instructions, perhaps your job is in danger indeed. That's not what a software engineer does anyway.

spaceman_2020 3y ago
You completely ignored my original point about this tech replacing the bottom 80%ile of coders, not the top 20%.
- bombolo 3y ago
  Maybe it can replace the bottom 1%