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Yup. And had to burn coal on that night because solar generation was at 0%, and wind generation was at 5% of installed capacity.

_ph_ 3y ago
Germany would have had to burn coal that night anyway. The output of the remaining 3 reactors would have been only a fraction of the electricity requirements anyway. Meanwhile the buildup of renewables continues and part of the "lost" production capacity will be filled in soon.
- illiarian 3y ago
  > Germany would have had to burn coal that night anyway But much, much less coal. > The output of the remaining 3 reactors would have been only a fraction of the electricity requirements anyway. That is s great way to say: we killed our stable source of electricity because of populism, and now we're burying our head in the sand justifying our decision. > production capacity will be filled in soon. Soon when? And the question of quiet nights remains
  - _ph_ 3y ago
    Somewhat less coal. We are talking about 3 GW less nuclear in a Grid which draws like 50. And yes, that were only the last nuclear reactors. But a lot of them would have had to be decommissioned anyway and there are still the problems of cost, especially of the nuclear waste etc. A large part of these 3 GW will be replaced even in 2023 and that will continue through the years. The current plans aim for 80 renewables in 2030.
    - illiarian 3y ago
      > We are talking about 3 GW less nuclear in a Grid which draws like 50. 6% > A large part of these 3 GW will be replaced even in 2023 0% of solar generation and 5% of wind generation will be replaced with what exactly?
    - illiarian 3y ago
      I forgot to mention in the sibling comment: > in a Grid which draws like 50. Installed wind capacity in Germany is 65GW. Seems to be much higher than what grid demands. And yet, on April 15th it was producing only 5% of that. And solar was producing zero. Guess where the power to cover that came from? Even today on a reasonably windy day (at least in Hamburg where I am right now) wind production is at 20% capacity, solar at 36 capacity. Busy burning coal for 21% of electricity even on a windy day.
      - Schroedingersat 3y ago
        You sure are fixated on nameplate numbers for those renewables that replaced all of the nuclear fleet and a third of the coal fleet already.
  - TestingUser123 3y ago
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- Faaak 3y ago
  I don't think it's fair to compare the "little" 3GW with the total energy production. This is still power that must be replaced by coal and thus CO2 emissions. Yes, its 6% compared to the total energy production, but it's still extra unneeded CO2 in the atmosphere

_ph_ 3y ago

Germany would have had to burn coal that night anyway. The output of the remaining 3 reactors would have been only a fraction of the electricity requirements anyway. Meanwhile the buildup of renewables continues and part of the "lost" production capacity will be filled in soon.

illiarian 3y ago
> Germany would have had to burn coal that night anyway But much, much less coal. > The output of the remaining 3 reactors would have been only a fraction of the electricity requirements anyway. That is s great way to say: we killed our stable source of electricity because of populism, and now we're burying our head in the sand justifying our decision. > production capacity will be filled in soon. Soon when? And the question of quiet nights remains
- _ph_ 3y ago
  Somewhat less coal. We are talking about 3 GW less nuclear in a Grid which draws like 50. And yes, that were only the last nuclear reactors. But a lot of them would have had to be decommissioned anyway and there are still the problems of cost, especially of the nuclear waste etc. A large part of these 3 GW will be replaced even in 2023 and that will continue through the years. The current plans aim for 80 renewables in 2030.
  - illiarian 3y ago
    > We are talking about 3 GW less nuclear in a Grid which draws like 50. 6% > A large part of these 3 GW will be replaced even in 2023 0% of solar generation and 5% of wind generation will be replaced with what exactly?
  - illiarian 3y ago
    I forgot to mention in the sibling comment: > in a Grid which draws like 50. Installed wind capacity in Germany is 65GW. Seems to be much higher than what grid demands. And yet, on April 15th it was producing only 5% of that. And solar was producing zero. Guess where the power to cover that came from? Even today on a reasonably windy day (at least in Hamburg where I am right now) wind production is at 20% capacity, solar at 36 capacity. Busy burning coal for 21% of electricity even on a windy day.
    - Schroedingersat 3y ago
      You sure are fixated on nameplate numbers for those renewables that replaced all of the nuclear fleet and a third of the coal fleet already.
- TestingUser123 3y ago
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Faaak 3y ago
I don't think it's fair to compare the "little" 3GW with the total energy production. This is still power that must be replaced by coal and thus CO2 emissions. Yes, its 6% compared to the total energy production, but it's still extra unneeded CO2 in the atmosphere