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> I used to get YT premium from my sis's boyfriend, but they detected I'm not in the family household and they kicked me out. I'm surprised you achieved that a

by dmix 4y ago

> I used to get YT premium from my sis's boyfriend, but they detected I'm not in the family household and they kicked me out. I'm surprised you achieved that at all. Google accounts are locked down hardcore... As it should be My gf wanted me to share my ChatGPT plus account but I signed up via Gmail and it was impossible. All of these sites can easily lock it down but choose not to. We're probably living in the Golden era. Although I still think Netflix's multi location accounts are far more expensive than their utility. And I fully see Netflix as an essential service but spending $35CAD/m is a serious consideration when I already buy 4 streaming devices that will very likely result in $18/m max if I pull the trigger.

dom96 4y ago
Funnily enough creating a service that allows ChatGPT to be shared seems rather easy to build.
- epolanski 4y ago
  Good luck monetizing it or even post the source code on GH and not be legally bullied..
finnish-food 4y ago
“ living in the Golden era.” If you actually lived in a Golden Era entertainment would be free, quality, and meant to enrich the people instead of advertise and moralize to them. I really don’t understand how a DVD collection is an “essential service” either. Or why you would effectively choose not to look at your watching statistics and then simply buy the media you watch the most. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/134503468553 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/134503468553 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/285243804109 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/285243804109 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/145050977289 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/145050977289 Why not just buy what you like?
- automatic6131 4y ago
  >meant to enrich the people >not to moralize to them I feel the current crop of writers employed by Disney, Netflix, Amazon etc. cannot tell the difference between these two.
  - finnish-food 4y ago
    No they cannot. And I am not just speaking in abstract terms, in the 1960s and 1970s (and even before) many shows were made that had a moral core but did not moralize at the audience. Shows like Star Trek, The Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, etc. which would question or discuss complex ideas without turning them into soap operas or basic dramas. The only shows that I can think of like that now are Black Mirror or perhaps your odd HBO offering, but those are not shining examples, and often, even if they do discuss or engage with deeper concepts or ideas, it’s not handled in a way that allows for nuance. (Black Mirror is happy to be quite crass at moments, same with HBO and other “top-tier” shows.)
    - pjc50 4y ago
      > Shows like Star Trek, The Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, etc. which would question or discuss complex ideas without turning them into soap operas or basic dramas. There's something in this. Tickbox diversity is a lazy solution that doesn't really satisfy people who want broader representation while at the same time causes the rightwing culture warriors to go increasingly berzerk. Writers need to get better at doing incidentally diverse shows, because "hello I'm a token look at me" is bad characterization. Or address it by commissioning a broader range of shows from different settings; not everything needs to be a flagship. While at the same time there are still lots of odd misses (Ghost in the Shell 2017 managed to annoy almost everybody in this regard).
    - krapp 4y ago
      >Shows like Star Trek, The Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, etc. which would question or discuss complex ideas without turning them into soap operas or basic dramas. Your memory of these shows differs dramatically from my own. None of the ideas discussed in any of them were complex or nuanced, much less culturally transgressive (no, not even Star Trek) and they were often ham-fisted and moralizing. I mean Star Trek and Twilight Zone so much so they became tropes and subjects of parody.
- m4tthumphrey 4y ago
  Convenience and discoverability?
  - finnish-food 4y ago
    Netflix does those worse than a 3rd party “recommend me similar movies” or even just IMDb lists. I guess if you think it recommending you “MegaShark vs. Giant Octopus Cat”… because you liked Jaws is helpful? I think personally it is not.
- dmix 4y ago
  Is this a serious question? Why am I not buying DVDs on eBay? At least ask why I'm not pirating it 24/7 when I already have an Android box connected to my TV w/ Kodi installed with 3rd party pirate extensions which gives me up-to-date lists of every show/movie available on Netflix/Hulu/Disney/etc (including their trending and genre based lists) with each show being a single click backed via 10 different HTTP pirate streaming servers they index...with the alternative of another app which let's me search any torrent movie ever and stream them on demand via my Fibre internet connection. I use Netflix etc because a) the recommendation algorithms are better than any 3rd party service like Reelgood hopes to be even with OSS plugins that track my torrents b) I live with 3 "normal" people in my house who don't care to navigate the imperfect UI of my Kodi streaming/torrent apps no matter how many times I tell them it's better and has everything they need and more for "free"
  - finnish-food 4y ago
    I just went under the hood in Plex and changed all the app icons and names to Netflix and my dumb family has no clue still. Just fool the normal people into a better UX.
    - dmix 4y ago
      Clever but I answer enough tech questions in my day job, don't want to introduce more :)
    - manmal 4y ago
      Are you using Overseerr too? I wonder how discovery would work in your case, if people believe they are already on Netflix.
      - finnish-food 4y ago
        https://metamanager.wiki/en/latest/ https://metamanager.wiki/en/latest/ https://www.rapidseedbox.com/blog/plex-meta-manager-guide#05 https://www.rapidseedbox.com/blog/plex-meta-manager-guide#05
- mseepgood 4y ago
  > enrich the people instead of advertise and moralize to them How does morality not enrich people? Isn't moral behaviour a good thing?
  - pierat 4y ago
    In my experiences, "morality" is used by other people in order to browbeat their choices into you, via peer pressure or shame. Ethics, on the other hand, is a set of self-imposed rules or rules of a group that you wilfully accept and join. I'd say the issues surrounding ethics and morality is that of consent and willful acceptance. I do not consider 'morality' itself to be ethical.
- dumpsterdiver 4y ago
  > If you actually lived in a Golden Era entertainment would be free Who would foot the bill to produce this content? You suggest that content would be "free"... but free to who? The consumer, right? It certainly isn't possible to produce high quality films for free. People pour their blood, sweat and tears into these productions. Why should the fruits of their labors be given away for free? Would you wake up early every day and proceed to work eight hours for free?
  - m0ped 4y ago
    When people talk about free healthcare, you understand what they mean, right? They're not enslaving doctors... It's the same in this case.
    - bee_rider 4y ago
      So, like only have PBS? That could be better for society I guess, TV is a bit waste of time after all, but I think it won’t satisfy all current streaming service users.
MadSudaca 4y ago
For YT premium it's not necessary to share your account, you can become part of the google family group and tie the group to the YT premium subscription. They realized that I don't live in the same household (I am quite far away), so it was pretty easy for them I guess. It's funny that they didn't explicitly kick me out. They simply asked me to contact their customer support and certify that I did indeed live in the same household.
Macacity 4y ago
Youtube has a Family Plan where you can add other google accounts to your family. So everyone is on their own google account.

by dmix 4y ago

dom96 4y ago

Funnily enough creating a service that allows ChatGPT to be shared seems rather easy to build.

epolanski 4y ago
Good luck monetizing it or even post the source code on GH and not be legally bullied..

finnish-food 4y ago

“ living in the Golden era.” If you actually lived in a Golden Era entertainment would be free, quality, and meant to enrich the people instead of advertise and moralize to them. I really don’t understand how a DVD collection is an “essential service” either. Or why you would effectively choose not to look at your watching statistics and then simply buy the media you watch the most. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/134503468553 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/134503468553 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/285243804109 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/285243804109 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/145050977289 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/145050977289 Why not just buy what you like?

automatic6131 4y ago
>meant to enrich the people >not to moralize to them I feel the current crop of writers employed by Disney, Netflix, Amazon etc. cannot tell the difference between these two.
- finnish-food 4y ago
  No they cannot. And I am not just speaking in abstract terms, in the 1960s and 1970s (and even before) many shows were made that had a moral core but did not moralize at the audience. Shows like Star Trek, The Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, etc. which would question or discuss complex ideas without turning them into soap operas or basic dramas. The only shows that I can think of like that now are Black Mirror or perhaps your odd HBO offering, but those are not shining examples, and often, even if they do discuss or engage with deeper concepts or ideas, it’s not handled in a way that allows for nuance. (Black Mirror is happy to be quite crass at moments, same with HBO and other “top-tier” shows.)
  - pjc50 4y ago
    > Shows like Star Trek, The Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, etc. which would question or discuss complex ideas without turning them into soap operas or basic dramas. There's something in this. Tickbox diversity is a lazy solution that doesn't really satisfy people who want broader representation while at the same time causes the rightwing culture warriors to go increasingly berzerk. Writers need to get better at doing incidentally diverse shows, because "hello I'm a token look at me" is bad characterization. Or address it by commissioning a broader range of shows from different settings; not everything needs to be a flagship. While at the same time there are still lots of odd misses (Ghost in the Shell 2017 managed to annoy almost everybody in this regard).
  - krapp 4y ago
    >Shows like Star Trek, The Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, etc. which would question or discuss complex ideas without turning them into soap operas or basic dramas. Your memory of these shows differs dramatically from my own. None of the ideas discussed in any of them were complex or nuanced, much less culturally transgressive (no, not even Star Trek) and they were often ham-fisted and moralizing. I mean Star Trek and Twilight Zone so much so they became tropes and subjects of parody.
m4tthumphrey 4y ago
Convenience and discoverability?
- finnish-food 4y ago
  Netflix does those worse than a 3rd party “recommend me similar movies” or even just IMDb lists. I guess if you think it recommending you “MegaShark vs. Giant Octopus Cat”… because you liked Jaws is helpful? I think personally it is not.
dmix 4y ago
Is this a serious question? Why am I not buying DVDs on eBay? At least ask why I'm not pirating it 24/7 when I already have an Android box connected to my TV w/ Kodi installed with 3rd party pirate extensions which gives me up-to-date lists of every show/movie available on Netflix/Hulu/Disney/etc (including their trending and genre based lists) with each show being a single click backed via 10 different HTTP pirate streaming servers they index...with the alternative of another app which let's me search any torrent movie ever and stream them on demand via my Fibre internet connection. I use Netflix etc because a) the recommendation algorithms are better than any 3rd party service like Reelgood hopes to be even with OSS plugins that track my torrents b) I live with 3 "normal" people in my house who don't care to navigate the imperfect UI of my Kodi streaming/torrent apps no matter how many times I tell them it's better and has everything they need and more for "free"
- finnish-food 4y ago
  I just went under the hood in Plex and changed all the app icons and names to Netflix and my dumb family has no clue still. Just fool the normal people into a better UX.
  - dmix 4y ago
    Clever but I answer enough tech questions in my day job, don't want to introduce more :)
  - manmal 4y ago
    Are you using Overseerr too? I wonder how discovery would work in your case, if people believe they are already on Netflix.
    - finnish-food 4y ago
      https://metamanager.wiki/en/latest/ https://metamanager.wiki/en/latest/ https://www.rapidseedbox.com/blog/plex-meta-manager-guide#05 https://www.rapidseedbox.com/blog/plex-meta-manager-guide#05
mseepgood 4y ago
> enrich the people instead of advertise and moralize to them How does morality not enrich people? Isn't moral behaviour a good thing?
- pierat 4y ago
  In my experiences, "morality" is used by other people in order to browbeat their choices into you, via peer pressure or shame. Ethics, on the other hand, is a set of self-imposed rules or rules of a group that you wilfully accept and join. I'd say the issues surrounding ethics and morality is that of consent and willful acceptance. I do not consider 'morality' itself to be ethical.
dumpsterdiver 4y ago
> If you actually lived in a Golden Era entertainment would be free Who would foot the bill to produce this content? You suggest that content would be "free"... but free to who? The consumer, right? It certainly isn't possible to produce high quality films for free. People pour their blood, sweat and tears into these productions. Why should the fruits of their labors be given away for free? Would you wake up early every day and proceed to work eight hours for free?
- m0ped 4y ago
  When people talk about free healthcare, you understand what they mean, right? They're not enslaving doctors... It's the same in this case.
  - bee_rider 4y ago
    So, like only have PBS? That could be better for society I guess, TV is a bit waste of time after all, but I think it won’t satisfy all current streaming service users.

MadSudaca 4y ago

For YT premium it's not necessary to share your account, you can become part of the google family group and tie the group to the YT premium subscription. They realized that I don't live in the same household (I am quite far away), so it was pretty easy for them I guess. It's funny that they didn't explicitly kick me out. They simply asked me to contact their customer support and certify that I did indeed live in the same household.

Macacity 4y ago

Youtube has a Family Plan where you can add other google accounts to your family. So everyone is on their own google account.