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Preservation has nothing to do with copyright. Buy a book, and preserve it yourself. Done. Oh, but you're only arguing against copyright so you can freely take

Preservation has nothing to do with copyright. Buy a book, and preserve it yourself. Done. Oh, but you're only arguing against copyright so you can freely take others work without remuneration. IF you're a creator, and you believe that copyright shouldn't exist - everything you produce, please... put it in the public domain and see what happens.

account42 4y ago
Preservation across long enough timelines requires duplication as well as sharing between people.
matheusmoreira 4y ago
> Preservation has nothing to do with copyright. Buy a book, and preserve it yourself. Done. Wrong. My house burns down, the book is gone. Your advice is worse than using RAID is as a backup solution. Preservation requires multiple independent redundant copies widely distributed over large geographical areas, cryptographically verified. Surely you can see how that flies in the face of copyright, a legal mechanism to give authors a monopoly on the production of copies. Truth is bittorrent did more for preservation of culture that copyright ever did. You could even quantify how well preserved the data was since you could count how many redundant copies were present in the swarm.
- deafpolygon 4y ago
  Cryptographically verified? How did we do it all these years? And I would like a source for your claim regarding BitTorrent.
  - matheusmoreira 4y ago
    > Cryptographically verified? How did we do it all these years? Yeah, how did you? Data can get corrupted, you know. Things like hashing and error correction are essential. > And I would like a source for your claim regarding BitTorrent. Launch any torrent client. There will be an indicator of how many complete copies exist amongst the peers in the swarm. The higher the number, the more well preserved the data is. Really simple. It's also self-healing since you can check the data and fix errors by downloading the damaged blocks again. Bittorrent is essentially the Linus Torvalds "real men publish things online so the whole world can mirror it" approach to backup and preservation. Shame copyright holders had to ruin it.

account42 4y ago

Preservation across long enough timelines requires duplication as well as sharing between people.

matheusmoreira 4y ago

> Preservation has nothing to do with copyright. Buy a book, and preserve it yourself. Done. Wrong. My house burns down, the book is gone. Your advice is worse than using RAID is as a backup solution. Preservation requires multiple independent redundant copies widely distributed over large geographical areas, cryptographically verified. Surely you can see how that flies in the face of copyright, a legal mechanism to give authors a monopoly on the production of copies. Truth is bittorrent did more for preservation of culture that copyright ever did. You could even quantify how well preserved the data was since you could count how many redundant copies were present in the swarm.

deafpolygon 4y ago
Cryptographically verified? How did we do it all these years? And I would like a source for your claim regarding BitTorrent.
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  > Cryptographically verified? How did we do it all these years? Yeah, how did you? Data can get corrupted, you know. Things like hashing and error correction are essential. > And I would like a source for your claim regarding BitTorrent. Launch any torrent client. There will be an indicator of how many complete copies exist amongst the peers in the swarm. The higher the number, the more well preserved the data is. Really simple. It's also self-healing since you can check the data and fix errors by downloading the damaged blocks again. Bittorrent is essentially the Linus Torvalds "real men publish things online so the whole world can mirror it" approach to backup and preservation. Shame copyright holders had to ruin it.