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I’m no expert on the sociological aspects of this, but do claim a bit of knowledge on statistics. And when a research finding contradicts everyday experience, i
by codeflo 3y ago
I’m no expert on the sociological aspects of this, but do claim a bit of knowledge on statistics. And when a research finding contradicts everyday experience, it’s natural to be skeptical, so I looked at the paper in a bit of detail (https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2221311120 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2221311120).
While I do have other questions about the test setup, here’s the statistical analysis they did:
They divided the students into quartile buckets based on prior knowledge on a subject, and then measured learning rates using some kind of online course system. What they found, in their own words, is that there’s only “small variability of student learning rate relative to variability in students’ initial knowledge”. In other words, and looking at their tables, there’s actually large variability in learning rate overall, but that’s almost perfectly correlated with initial performance.
To be concrete, the improvement rate, using whatever measurement they use, is 2.56 for the top initial knowledge quartile and 1.70 for the bottom one. So top performers do indeed learn 50% faster.
They hide this using lots of language about “little inter-quartile differences”, and then denounce all kinds of “problematic conceptualizations” that society has. When in reality, at the university level, this “initial knowledge” isn’t some independent random variable that you have to control for, but, as this study actually very clearly shows, the integral of the student’s learning rate over their lifetime.
- AndrewDucker 3y ago"based on prior knowledge on a subject" seems to causing the issues here. I'd expect people with 10 years of programming experience to pick up a new programming language much faster (overall) than someone with only 1 year. I wouldn't expect them to be necessarily faster at picking up a topic that has nothing to do with programming. So there's a big difference between "People who already have a bunch of experience on a topic learn something on the same topic faster" and "Some people just plain learn things faster than others". So they're controlling for "amount of experience", and saying that as long as you have a similar amount of experience on a topic as someone else you'll probably learn about the same speed as them. And you're saying "But the amount of experience you have makes you learn faster!" - and these two things don't seem to be in opposition, to me.