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Don’t wait long. Please educate yourself. His claim that “Africans” have inferior intelligence due to their genetics has precisely zero basis in scientific evid

Don’t wait long. Please educate yourself. His claim that “Africans” have inferior intelligence due to their genetics has precisely zero basis in scientific evidence.

mjfl 4y ago
Imagine if it was true. Would you be able to publish it? Would you be able to write a grant to get funds investigating it?
- underlipton 4y ago
  Would you be able to prove it? Which is more likely?: >A less-intelligent population has conspired to control the activities of an institution in which they are famously underrepresented (even when considering their status as a numerical minority). >Investigations have been funded and actually taken place in the past, with the results being inconclusive, or unremarkable, or having falsified the hypothesis. >Suggesting such investigations reflects a misunderstanding of the capabilities of genetic studies as they currently exist. They will not be undertaken because they're fundamentally incapable of answering the question.
  - notsosec 4y ago
    This is a false dichotomy. The taboos about races / genetics are largely held and enforced by white people, not (just) by minorities.
    - underlipton 4y ago
      In other words, the group that is supposed to be of superior intelligence, and which has the most to gain from a narrative of superiority, maintains, in your view, that they are not superior. Occam's Razor would say that they've come to this conclusion because they've found it to align most neatly with reality.
      - ryan93 4y ago
        Or they would lose standing among their peers. All whites aren't in some secret club where we coordinate.
      - notsosec 4y ago
        Oh nice you found Occam's razor. Can I borrow it to explain crime rates, test scores, etc.?
mightyham 4y ago
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- phs318u 4y ago
  Please then provide some references to the e literature you’ve read supporting your claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof as the saying goes.
  - mightyham 4y ago
    https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/doc/10.1.1.372.6092 https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/doc/10.1.1.372.6092 Meta-analysis of the results of over six million participants tested for cognitive ability or aptitude that found a difference in average scores between Black and White individuals of 1.1 standard deviations. And if you are curious about the relationship between IQ and genetics this Wikipedia page has a ton of cited research: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ Also I don't think I'm the one making extraordinary claims here...
    - underlipton 4y ago
      That's not a genetic study. The authors specialize in organizational/management science. For the Wikipedia article, you should read it yourself. A ctrl-f for "no evidence" would do you well.
      - notsosec 4y ago
        It appears to be a meta-analysis of literature in the field of psychology.
      - mightyham 4y ago
        I fail to see how insulting the authors academic credentials brings more to this discussion than critiquing the methodology or providing a study to the contrary. I also have read the Wikipedia article and have no idea what you are talking about. Claiming there is "no evidence" to any of the sides of this very complex issue is utterly ridiculous.
sacrosancty 4y ago
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Don’t wait long. Please educate yourself. His claim that “Africans” have inferior intelligence due to their genetics has precisely zero basis in scientific evidence.

mjfl 4y ago

Imagine if it was true. Would you be able to publish it? Would you be able to write a grant to get funds investigating it?

underlipton 4y ago
Would you be able to prove it? Which is more likely?: >A less-intelligent population has conspired to control the activities of an institution in which they are famously underrepresented (even when considering their status as a numerical minority). >Investigations have been funded and actually taken place in the past, with the results being inconclusive, or unremarkable, or having falsified the hypothesis. >Suggesting such investigations reflects a misunderstanding of the capabilities of genetic studies as they currently exist. They will not be undertaken because they're fundamentally incapable of answering the question.
- notsosec 4y ago
  This is a false dichotomy. The taboos about races / genetics are largely held and enforced by white people, not (just) by minorities.
  - underlipton 4y ago
    In other words, the group that is supposed to be of superior intelligence, and which has the most to gain from a narrative of superiority, maintains, in your view, that they are not superior. Occam's Razor would say that they've come to this conclusion because they've found it to align most neatly with reality.
    - ryan93 4y ago
      Or they would lose standing among their peers. All whites aren't in some secret club where we coordinate.
    - notsosec 4y ago
      Oh nice you found Occam's razor. Can I borrow it to explain crime rates, test scores, etc.?

mightyham 4y ago

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phs318u 4y ago
Please then provide some references to the e literature you’ve read supporting your claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof as the saying goes.
- mightyham 4y ago
  https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/doc/10.1.1.372.6092 https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/doc/10.1.1.372.6092 Meta-analysis of the results of over six million participants tested for cognitive ability or aptitude that found a difference in average scores between Black and White individuals of 1.1 standard deviations. And if you are curious about the relationship between IQ and genetics this Wikipedia page has a ton of cited research: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ Also I don't think I'm the one making extraordinary claims here...
  - underlipton 4y ago
    That's not a genetic study. The authors specialize in organizational/management science. For the Wikipedia article, you should read it yourself. A ctrl-f for "no evidence" would do you well.
    - notsosec 4y ago
      It appears to be a meta-analysis of literature in the field of psychology.
    - mightyham 4y ago
      I fail to see how insulting the authors academic credentials brings more to this discussion than critiquing the methodology or providing a study to the contrary. I also have read the Wikipedia article and have no idea what you are talking about. Claiming there is "no evidence" to any of the sides of this very complex issue is utterly ridiculous.

sacrosancty 4y ago

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