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>And IKEA stuff costs a lot less than 1/3 of finished solid wood furniture. To put things into perspective, I ordered a desk from a local company. I had a lot
by MrFoof 3y ago
>And IKEA stuff costs a lot less than 1/3 of finished solid wood furniture.
To put things into perspective, I ordered a desk from a local company. I had a lot of customization options, but basically I wanted a 60 x 30" top. The legs I ordered actually have height adjustment ... with a CRANK. Because it'll never break. So you have 60-inch long boards, maybe about 4-inches wide each, pressed together into a single board. There's attempt to match up the pattern, so at a quick glance most people would think it's a solid piece. Also not much heavier, because there's less adhesives needed to produce the single board.
With the top you had choices not only in the type of wood, but how that wood was engineered (or if it was a single piece).
* If I went with a butcher block construction, which is heavier, that was $1200.
* I went with a face-grain engineered walnut top. That was $2000 for just the top. Looks great, too.
* If I went with a SINGLE solid board, there was not only a real lead time, but the top was $6500.
And that was just for American walnut. I could've picked far pricier woods. Could've picked some garbage pine or something too, but note the spread there. I think for a 60x30, the total spread of options was $500 to $11,000 depending on the construction and the wood chosen.
This is because nature is really bad at producing large perfect boards, especially for a total area past a few square feet. Turns out. A lot of stuff we use even in modern construction is not just engineered, but often uses petroleum products. Plywood uses a urea formaldehyde, but lo-and-behold we figured out how to produce that out of oil! OSB is no different. It's why when 5-over-1s under construction (before fire suppression equipment is installed) catch fire, they go up very fast, and usually burn hot enough where the radiant heat damages nearby buildings.
When you get into large single pieces, not only are they rare, but you want to let the moisture release, preferably naturally. So you have all these boards, being stored in large climate controlled warehouses for months if not years, before they are used in a piece of furniture. That massive opportunity cost of literally keeping boards around is part of why you pay.
I have some short "entertainment benches" I bought many years ago that were made by Ethnicraft in Vietnam, I believe for Crate & Barrel. Engineered face grain, walnut, on a nickel-plated steel parsons style base. Got them over a decade ago, still look perfect, and at a glance, people think they're one piece. They're not, but again at a quick glance they do. All in they were $4500 for the pair. I could've got some solid ones from a German company named E15. The pair would've been over $20,000 then, and over $30,000 today.
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Meanwhile, you can get a similarly sized desk from IKEA, with legs, for $370. It's particle board with a glued on outer surface to protect it.
- cvwright 3y ago> * If I went with a butcher block construction, which is heavier, that was $1200. Butcher block is environmentally friendly because it’s made from lots of small pieces that might otherwise be scrap. Also, at least in the US, you can get a 30x60 piece of butcher block from a big-box hardware store for not much more than that IKEA desk.
- brewdad 3y agoMy son has had good luck with buying a set of adjustable legs from Monoprice[1] and an IKEA countertop[2] for the desktop. It's one of their laminiated wood models and can be trimmed, though he left his at the full 6 feet. He got the legs on sale for $200 and the countertop was $79. [1] https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=43563 https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=43563 [2] https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/saeljan-countertop-oak-effect-laminate-80439214/ https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/saeljan-countertop-oak-effect-l...
- Macha 3y agoNote that it's wood effect and not actual wood. Over time the veneer fails and starts to bubble or peel, and they can also warp easier with heavy loads
- nl 3y agoIn Australia I got this 1800mm x 405mm (so 70" x 15") butchers block panel[1] for about US$50 and then used height adjustable legs from IKEA which were like $15 each. It looks great and is as solid as anything. IKEA also has an electric height-adjustable desk frame for maybe $300 I think [1] https://www.bunnings.com.au/specrite-1800-x-405mm-18mm-timber-panel-beech-fj-laminated_p8330198 https://www.bunnings.com.au/specrite-1800-x-405mm-18mm-timbe...
- dbetteridge 3y agoTheir 2200*610mm jarrah butchers block is fantastic and really beautiful when oiled. Heavy as hell though! https://ibb.co/BZv3XkQ https://ibb.co/BZv3XkQ
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