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(Mac user here) This is exactly why I use and love Safari.

by bonney_io 3y ago

withinboredom 3y ago
Deleted because it was protected by an NDA.
- latexr 3y ago
  Could you expand on that? Considering how Apple positions itself in terms of privacy, that’s a huge claim. You don’t have to name names if that’s a problem, but there should at least be something credible we can look into.
  - skrowl 3y ago
    [dead]
- radicaldreamer 3y ago
  Source? Is this Google Safe Browsing related or auto-completing search queries? Pretty explosive allegation imo.
  - CamelRocketFish 3y ago
    What was the allegation?
    - stefncb 3y ago
      I assume GP regretted sharing it, so maybe you shouldn't?
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
kokanee 3y ago
Mac user and web dev here - I appreciate a lot of things about the philosophy behind Safari, but I've lost untold hours to debugging and working around inane Safari bugs. It is truly the modern equivalent of IE for front end devs. It also makes my blood boil that Safari both hides the full path of the URL you're currently visiting and doesn't implement the standard practice of giving you a preview of the full URL you're about to visit when you hover over a link. These are horrible choices for usability and security, especially at a time when phishing is so productive.
- marcellus23 3y ago
  > Safari both hides the full path of the URL you're currently visiting and doesn't implement the standard practice of giving you a preview of the full URL you're about to visit when you hover over a link Safari has both of these. Safari > Settings > Advanced > Show full website address, and View > Show status bar. Moreover, I don't think either of them help out with phishing. The intention behind not showing the full website address is specifically to stop phishing, since it puts the emphasis on the domain name. (Is there a phishing situation where someone could spoof the domain name? Maybe, but I imagine in that case, they could spoof the rest of the URL as well). As for the status bar, I don't think anyone would look at it even if it was enabled by default.
  - ketralnis 3y ago
    I suspect the victims of phishing that they're referring to aren't running in non-default "Advanced" states
    - marcellus23 3y ago
      The intention behind not showing the full website address is specifically to stop phishing, since it puts the emphasis on the domain name instead of misleading paths. As for the status bar, I don't think anyone would look at it even if it was enabled by default.
      - 3y ago
DiscourseFan 3y ago
I love safari for my phone, but I prefer brave for my browser just because I still think chromium is the best browser, and brave has excellent security features. Plus its how I found this website, when you type "news" in the search bar it automatically re-directs you here.
- bombcar 3y ago
  Brave also has discount Tor which is nice at times.
tick_tock_tick 3y ago
Isn't Safari the worst of the lot? It send everything to Apple and makes it near impossible to turn that off.
- nomel 3y ago
  > It send everything to Apple Reference?
- latexr 3y ago
  Again this claim without proof. That’s a pretty damning accusation, so you should provide a source or a way for us to verify it independently. If it is “near impossible to turn that off” it means it is possible. How?

(Mac user here) This is exactly why I use and love Safari.

withinboredom 3y ago

Deleted because it was protected by an NDA.

latexr 3y ago
Could you expand on that? Considering how Apple positions itself in terms of privacy, that’s a huge claim. You don’t have to name names if that’s a problem, but there should at least be something credible we can look into.
- skrowl 3y ago
  [dead]
radicaldreamer 3y ago
Source? Is this Google Safe Browsing related or auto-completing search queries? Pretty explosive allegation imo.
- CamelRocketFish 3y ago
  What was the allegation?
  - stefncb 3y ago
    I assume GP regretted sharing it, so maybe you shouldn't?
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]

kokanee 3y ago

Mac user and web dev here - I appreciate a lot of things about the philosophy behind Safari, but I've lost untold hours to debugging and working around inane Safari bugs. It is truly the modern equivalent of IE for front end devs. It also makes my blood boil that Safari both hides the full path of the URL you're currently visiting and doesn't implement the standard practice of giving you a preview of the full URL you're about to visit when you hover over a link. These are horrible choices for usability and security, especially at a time when phishing is so productive.

marcellus23 3y ago
> Safari both hides the full path of the URL you're currently visiting and doesn't implement the standard practice of giving you a preview of the full URL you're about to visit when you hover over a link Safari has both of these. Safari > Settings > Advanced > Show full website address, and View > Show status bar. Moreover, I don't think either of them help out with phishing. The intention behind not showing the full website address is specifically to stop phishing, since it puts the emphasis on the domain name. (Is there a phishing situation where someone could spoof the domain name? Maybe, but I imagine in that case, they could spoof the rest of the URL as well). As for the status bar, I don't think anyone would look at it even if it was enabled by default.
- ketralnis 3y ago
  I suspect the victims of phishing that they're referring to aren't running in non-default "Advanced" states
  - marcellus23 3y ago
    The intention behind not showing the full website address is specifically to stop phishing, since it puts the emphasis on the domain name instead of misleading paths. As for the status bar, I don't think anyone would look at it even if it was enabled by default.
    - 3y ago

DiscourseFan 3y ago

I love safari for my phone, but I prefer brave for my browser just because I still think chromium is the best browser, and brave has excellent security features. Plus its how I found this website, when you type "news" in the search bar it automatically re-directs you here.

bombcar 3y ago
Brave also has discount Tor which is nice at times.

tick_tock_tick 3y ago

Isn't Safari the worst of the lot? It send everything to Apple and makes it near impossible to turn that off.

nomel 3y ago
> It send everything to Apple Reference?
latexr 3y ago
Again this claim without proof. That’s a pretty damning accusation, so you should provide a source or a way for us to verify it independently. If it is “near impossible to turn that off” it means it is possible. How?