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It's a mistery to me why Microsoft does not do the simple and obvious thing to siphon of a gazillion users from Google: Just offer a simple clean interface to
by TekMol 4y ago
It's a mistery to me why Microsoft does not do the simple and obvious thing to siphon of a gazillion users from Google:
Just offer a simple clean interface to Bing + ChatGPT.
Without all the visual clutter and dark patterns.
Why do they keep the foot on the break by adding all that nonsense to their search engine?
Google is bringing in $160 Billion a year with their clean search result pages.
Why does Microsoft think they need to play clumsy tricks and add stuff on top of the search results to make a buck?
I see more users coming to my sites via DuckDuckGo - which searches via Bing - than via Bing itself. And that while Bing is the default search engine on the majority of new desktops and laptops out there. And the default search engine on many new tablets. Plus they have ChatGPT integration. It's just ming boggling how Microsoft wastes all that power with a bad UI.
- fnordpiglet 4y agoHave you seen the start menu?
- TekMol 4y agoOf Windows? No. I don't have Windows. What does it do?
- fnordpiglet 4y agoSpams you with ads and cross sells you bing content
- grouchomarx 4y agocomments like these strengthen my resolve to go down with the win10 ship then return to macOS when apple's chip line has matured
- bonney_io 4y ago> Google is bringing in $160 Billion a year with their clean search result pages. No, Google brings in $X billion a year with all the ads and garbage they stuff in between those clean search results. The same is true for Microsoft. There's no money to be made to run the service (let alone justify an American company's lust for growth and profit) without stuffing it full of ads to hopefully sell you something.
- TekMol 4y agoYes, results+ads is what makes the search result pages. But visit this site: https://www.google.com https://www.google.com And then visit this site: https://www.bing.com https://www.bing.com And now tell me with a straight face that you don't see a difference. Bing ads a ton of stuff to the "results+ads" concept that works so well for Google.
- whimsicalism 4y agoThey look pretty similar to me except that Bing has a giant photo of penguins. Maybe you have a different experience? e: Oh woah if I zoom out to 90% then I see what you are talking about.
- com2kid 4y agoOne has cute penguins in the background, both show a pop up dialog trying to get me to do something. The layout of the results page for two sample search are almost identical. Actually for "what is a barnacle" I think Bing wins for clarity of results. When searching for "what dog food is the best", both Bing and Google give me an entire page full of ads before any actual results pop up. On desktop, Google's "sponsored" marker is more obvious than Bing's, but no wheres near as obvious as it used to be when Google's motto was don't be evil. Mobile search result ads are aggressively bad with Google, frequently I have to scroll down past a page and a half of ads before I get to actual results. All in all, users are losing out.
- MR4D 4y agoOn Bing: Hamburger menu > Customize my homepage > uncheck the 3 boxes Same clutter as google. Yes, you can complain about the default, but Bing makes this pretty darn easy.
- Dah00n 4y agoWithout tracking you (no saved cookies at browser restart)?
- rchaud 4y ago
- spiderfarmer 4y agoWhen has Microsoft ever designed a user decent interface?
- TekMol 4y agoWindows 95 was the best desktop at that time.
- wvenable 4y agoThey design great stuff... and then cram it full of b*** sh**
- dotancohen 4y agoMy Microsoft-branded Sculpt Ergonomic keyboard is fantastic. I have no idea if they designed it or build it, though. And even the tilted mouse that it came with is really good. Their previous ergonomic keyboard 4000-something, was also fantastic. They are not conventional keyboards, they have slightly-updated interfaces including larger meta keys, a split hand layout, tenting and reverse tilting, integrated palm rest, and some other niceties. Yes, Microsoft is capable of shipping a decent user interface. Just not in software. ))
- moffkalast 4y agoWell there's this thing called Windows, I hear it's kind of popular.
- speedgoose 4y agoMicrosoft Office too I heard.
- Aperocky 4y agopopular isn't necessarily decent. The decent part was inherited from 20 years ago. The new UI changes have generally been detrimental. It got to a point where I'm contemplating (but too lazy) to switch my gaming PC to Linux
- alpaca128 4y agoThat's like saying ads are popular because they're everywhere.
- JohnFen 4y ago> via DuckDuckGo - which searches via Bing But not solely with Bing. DDG aggregates from many different sources, including what their own spider finds.
- TekMol 4y agoThat's the story, but I doubt it. Show me a query for which DDG has different results than Bing.
- xnx 4y agoExactly. This "fact" gets repeated so often, but it's probably only technically true. e.g. DDG = Bing + crawl of top 500 sites that DDG does once a month
- JohnFen 4y agoI was just taking DDG's word for it, but it wouldn't take that much to convince me that they were lying. Especially since they disappeared the page that listed all of their sources.
- vitorgrs 4y agoNo. Currently only Bing. As far I'm aware, it got data from Yandex years ago, but that stopped after the war.
- CamelRocketFish 4y agoIf your website’s target audience is tech related then it’s not surprising that DuckDuckGo is the origin regardless of bing being installed as the default search engine on windows machines/edge.
- cubefox 4y agoMicrosoft makes an absurd amount of revenue already from Office and Azure. I say it's good that their software interfaces are more awkward than Google's, otherwise they would soon dominate everything.
- empath-nirvana 4y agothe new bing search isn't that bad, at least on the iphone
- kenjackson 4y agoTurns out there are different classes of people with different preferences. There will ALWAYS be some customers unhappy with their decision, and they will typically be the loudest. The fact that you see more users hitting your site from DuckDuckGo than Bing is a pretty good indicator that this audience is not typical, since Bing usage is generally much higher than DDG.
- freehorse 4y agoBecause they want to advertise they add FeATurES. There is no concern for utility and simplicity because this is not gonna bring users anyway, and it is nothing to really advertise. All this modern corporate bullshit is just unbearable.
- nottorp 4y ago> with their clean search result pages. What clean result pages? You posting from 15 years ago?
- scarface74 4y ago> Google is bringing in $160 Billion a year with their clean search result pages I see nothing clean like “10 blue links” when I search for “bicycles”