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> The age of adtech is closing and the world is better for it. YouTube Premium exists and plenty of people still use adblock, or nothing at all. Most people ar

> The age of adtech is closing and the world is better for it. YouTube Premium exists and plenty of people still use adblock, or nothing at all. Most people are not going to pay for a subscription. As for your other point, SaaS is a thing and has been for over a decade... If anything I'd say ChatGPT is the beginning of next-gen adtech.

smoldesu 4y ago
> If anything I'd say ChatGPT is the beginning of next-gen adtech. You're 100% right, and people are gonna hate to hear it. It's like getting people to drink cough medicine. 2 decades ago, we were naive enough to wonder what online video streaming would look like. Now it's an ad-fuelled treadmill that has more promotional content than candid, sincere videos. We were also dumb enough to imagine online search indexing, same problem. Even your app store is not safe from being weaponized. It's a sad pattern that is 100% fueled by the desperate profit-seeking of shareholders, and sustained by the free market in general.
- nr2x 4y ago
  I’ve got receipts from HBO, Amazon, Disney, Netflix, Curiosity Stream, and YouTube Premium that prove that wrong.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    Precisely to the point I made elsewhere in this thread: > Just don't pretend that you're funding a better world by buying the premium product - it's a bigger trick than advertisement itself. [0] I'm not going to play the "media companies are the bad guys" card, but they are rent collectors. All of them do this - they take your money, and then keep squeezing. The only way to avoid being manipulated is to not play the game in the first place. You still can (and should) fund the artists and creators you're fond of. The moment you agree to terms or a contract though, you've been made a business bitch. OpenAI is no different than the rest of them. Their Faustian bargain is worded a little differently, and the flowers on the table are a different color, but it's still the same shitshow. As a reminder, YouTube also launched without ads. Just you wait, the squeeze is coming. I guarantee it! [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35706083 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35706083

smoldesu 4y ago

> If anything I'd say ChatGPT is the beginning of next-gen adtech. You're 100% right, and people are gonna hate to hear it. It's like getting people to drink cough medicine. 2 decades ago, we were naive enough to wonder what online video streaming would look like. Now it's an ad-fuelled treadmill that has more promotional content than candid, sincere videos. We were also dumb enough to imagine online search indexing, same problem. Even your app store is not safe from being weaponized. It's a sad pattern that is 100% fueled by the desperate profit-seeking of shareholders, and sustained by the free market in general.

nr2x 4y ago
I’ve got receipts from HBO, Amazon, Disney, Netflix, Curiosity Stream, and YouTube Premium that prove that wrong.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  Precisely to the point I made elsewhere in this thread: > Just don't pretend that you're funding a better world by buying the premium product - it's a bigger trick than advertisement itself. [0] I'm not going to play the "media companies are the bad guys" card, but they are rent collectors. All of them do this - they take your money, and then keep squeezing. The only way to avoid being manipulated is to not play the game in the first place. You still can (and should) fund the artists and creators you're fond of. The moment you agree to terms or a contract though, you've been made a business bitch. OpenAI is no different than the rest of them. Their Faustian bargain is worded a little differently, and the flowers on the table are a different color, but it's still the same shitshow. As a reminder, YouTube also launched without ads. Just you wait, the squeeze is coming. I guarantee it! [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35706083 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35706083