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Your enemies want you to think eternal outrage is unhealthy. That's how they eventually win; They can play this game longer than you're willing to play it.

JohnFen 4y ago
I am not willing to live in a state of eternal outrage. It's an incredibly unpleasant place to be and what's the point? My outrage changes nothing, and I don't need to be outraged to do whatever is in my power to change things. Not giving these bastards money is a good start.
- prewett 4y ago
  This article finally pushed me over to thinking that we need to start pushing for some laws to limit this sort of thing. It's just pervasive, and "not giving [them] money" is completely ineffective. And for some companies, like Google or Facebook, it's pretty hard for a consumer to actually give them money in the first place, nor is practical [0] to not use their products. [0] practical, not possible.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    The main reason why I'm eliminating these kinds of things from my life is self-protection rather than trying to get companies to change their behavior. As you say, getting them to change outside of effective legislation is impossible. > for some companies, like Google or Facebook, it's pretty hard for a consumer to actually give them money in the first place, nor is practical [0] to not use their products. Well, the only Facebook product I use is WhatsApp, and that's to talk with one person in Europe who only uses WhatsApp. The only Google product I use is YouTube, and I only use that with an account that is not used for any other purpose, and on a tablet that is not used for any other purpose. So my experience is that avoiding these companies is entirely practical. All you give up is a small amount of convenience.
    - soulofmischief 4y ago
      You also must consider that your family and community need protection as well, and they rely on those who have expertise in these highly complex topics.
  - CatWChainsaw 4y ago
    A rather late place to draw the line, given the sheer exploitive nature the industry has shown itself capable of stooping to these last couple decades.

JohnFen 4y ago

I am not willing to live in a state of eternal outrage. It's an incredibly unpleasant place to be and what's the point? My outrage changes nothing, and I don't need to be outraged to do whatever is in my power to change things. Not giving these bastards money is a good start.

prewett 4y ago
This article finally pushed me over to thinking that we need to start pushing for some laws to limit this sort of thing. It's just pervasive, and "not giving [them] money" is completely ineffective. And for some companies, like Google or Facebook, it's pretty hard for a consumer to actually give them money in the first place, nor is practical [0] to not use their products. [0] practical, not possible.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  The main reason why I'm eliminating these kinds of things from my life is self-protection rather than trying to get companies to change their behavior. As you say, getting them to change outside of effective legislation is impossible. > for some companies, like Google or Facebook, it's pretty hard for a consumer to actually give them money in the first place, nor is practical [0] to not use their products. Well, the only Facebook product I use is WhatsApp, and that's to talk with one person in Europe who only uses WhatsApp. The only Google product I use is YouTube, and I only use that with an account that is not used for any other purpose, and on a tablet that is not used for any other purpose. So my experience is that avoiding these companies is entirely practical. All you give up is a small amount of convenience.
  - soulofmischief 4y ago
    You also must consider that your family and community need protection as well, and they rely on those who have expertise in these highly complex topics.
- CatWChainsaw 4y ago
  A rather late place to draw the line, given the sheer exploitive nature the industry has shown itself capable of stooping to these last couple decades.