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I’m willing to do my part once private jets get banned

• hkt 4y ago
  You should probably do your part, which may well involve campaigning for such an outcome. Plus recycling and ditching your car, obviously.
• pbak 4y ago
  And what, you want them to do zoom calls and fly economy, or horror (gags profusely) , take the train like some common peasant ? The audacity !
• pfisch 4y ago
  "Critics of coercive measures targeting private planes point out that a ban would only reduce carbon emissions by 0.2%, based on study of the direct cost of private jets alone." https://flybitlux.com/what-is-the-carbon-footprint-of-a-private-jet/ https://flybitlux.com/what-is-the-carbon-footprint-of-a-priv... Just admit you're not really intending to "do your part" at all. You just intend to whataboutism everyone else for the forseeable future.
  • wyre 4y ago
    I’m going to take anything a private charter jet company says about the carbon footprint of private jets with a very large grain of salt.
  • mitthrowaway2 4y ago
    0.2% of all emissions sounds like a disproportionately big win. Like the entire emissions of small country. That's a low hanging fruit. Let's do it!
    • pfisch 4y ago
      It is low hanging fruit to get every country in the world to agree to outlaw private jet travel!? How ridiculous. The US can't even pass basic legislation to stop schools from getting shot up once a week, but this is low hanging fruit??? Ok...
      • mitthrowaway2 4y ago
        Yes, it's a fair bit easier than that mess.
        • pfisch 4y ago
          It is easier than passing laws that are economic carrots to promote electrifying cars and building new green energy sources of power? No. It clearly isn't and will just become a culture war issue that doesn't even matter.
          • mitthrowaway2 4y ago
            Good point, let's do that too.
    • Ekaros 4y ago
      I wonder if that also affects less than 0.2% of global population...
  • whimsicalism 4y ago
    0.2% of all emissions just for banning private jets? That's... incredibly good. I doubt private jets are actually key to much economic value creation.
  • bluefirebrand 4y ago
    It makes more sense when you view it as a prisoner's dilemma. I already have a relatively low carbon footprint compared to many. I don't commute to work, I don't have a boat or a camper or a snowmobile or a quad or drive a big truck. I don't fly more than a couple of times a year. I don't even have a gas lawnmower. I also don't have kids, which is arguably one of the biggest extra carbon consumers a person can introduce into the world. I'm not going to cut my carbon usage down to pre-industrial levels while other people could cut their carbon usage down to my level with a lot less impact to their quality of life. At some point people who are extremely cutting their own carbon usage are just subsidizing the lazy usage of others.
    • pfisch 4y ago
      No serious person is asking for you to personally cut your carbon footprint through individual action. That won't work and is a waste of energy. We need to be working to make green energy cheaper than fossil fuels, make electric cars cheaper than gas cars, and begin exploring extreme solutions like dumping iron in the ocean as a backup plan. These are government policy level solutions, and the only ones that should be taken seriously.
• gambiting 4y ago
  Yeah that's an insane take that unfortunately a lot of people share. Private jets are obviously a problem but there are much bigger targets to tackle first. It's like saying you won't tackle ocean pollution until your local pond is cleaned up. Private jets are flashy and easily polarize public opinion - but saying you won't do your part until those are banned is frankly a coward's move.