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I'm using Logseq for the same reasons. .txt was never going to cut it for me, I always include images like drawings, photos and screenshots etc. Logseq is ope

I'm using Logseq for the same reasons. .txt was never going to cut it for me, I always include images like drawings, photos and screenshots etc. Logseq is open source, reasonable file format, stable, extensible, has a reasonable plan for funding itself without lock ins, and, for me, is among the smoothest I have used. Notably missing from old OneNote 2016: - shared notebooks w/indication of updates - smoother syncing Notable upgrades from OneNote 2016: - still exists - more structured (OneNote can out text and objects everywhere) - easily extensible - queryable - taggable (Tags in OneNote aren't really tags, only glorified emojis) - open source As for the modern version of OneNote, I have given it up. It almost isn't comparable.

creamyhorror 4y ago
Yep, good reasons to use Logseq. I picked Obsidian over Logseq because of the larger community, and because I thought the former's UI looked suitable for hierarchical notes in main categories, which is my usual approach. I go to the right folder and append to the end of the relevant note. I do like Logseq's more free-flowing, block-tagging, hypertext-journal approach, but thought I didn't really need the journal format for now. If Logseq can also do hierarchical organising/browsing with a simple sidebar interface, I think I'll give it a go. Does it work well for that use case? What's nice is that you can run both Logseq and Obsidian on the same Markdown files, since they're (mostly compatible) Markdown, so I'm not too worried about switching as needed or even using both.
- eitland 4y ago
  I'm not aware of any extension that gives you a hierarchical sidebar on the left. The right side however has a built in "Contents" page - which tells you what it is for - only as far as I know one has to fill it out oneselves. That said, my goal was not to convert you or anyone. I am a NetBeans user myself so I know a bit or two about others telling me why I should switch to "clearly superior alternatives" and I don't want to do that to others ;-)
  - creamyhorror 4y ago
    Hah, appreciate it. Although I actually do like finding out about better alternatives and weigh the benefits of switching. It's good to know what people are happy about, even if it isn't quite for oneself. Sounds like Obsidian fits me better than Logseq for now (for the inherent hierarchical organisation). Though one of these days I'll try running Logseq on the same files just for a different view and to try out journalling.
    - eitland 4y ago
      You maybe already know, but I write it anyway in case you or someone else find it interesting: AFAIK Logseq docs encourage new users to put everything under Journal and just tag the relevant blocks. Multiple hierarchical tags are possible, as are aliases, which comes in handy, e.g. I have examples of good ux nested three steps down from root, but in practice I write [[Good UX]] and paste the screenshot and I am done, it shows up at the right place, but is a lot more readable in my journal. BTW, that alias could have been #GoodUX as well and I would have gotten away with hashtag notation.)
mdhen 4y ago
I've been using syncthing to sync logseq and it works very well.
- eitland 4y ago
  I'm considering it. Currently I sponsor the project and use the built in sync but it is a bit rough around the edges still and I have seen a solution for automatic conflict resolution using syncthing. Do you use a script or something or are you just careful?
Multicomp 4y ago
> As for the modern version of OneNote, I have given it up. It almost isn't comparable. Agreed, that's why I'm happy they basically kicked "onenote for windows 10" to the curb and leaned back into the win32 style full desktop application on Windows, AKA onenote 2021. It even has full dark mode and dictation now!
- eitland 4y ago
  > the win32 style full desktop application on Windows, AKA onenote 2021. It exists? Edit: I checked and it does exist! Thanks! I installed it and verified tags are just as cute as before. I don't have time to verify if the old brilliant sync via file share feature works longer, but the rest of it looks good. I probably should test OCR of pasted images too, now that I think of it, although the OCR in Windows Power Tools has replaced it for me. I'll probably not use it much again now that I have Logseq and thankfully don't work at many "Microsoft only" shops but if sync via fileshare works it is back as my recommendation for smaller shops that insist on Microsoft centric setups. I'd probably also personally prefer it to Confluence on small projects (and that thankfully means almost every project I touch).

creamyhorror 4y ago

Yep, good reasons to use Logseq. I picked Obsidian over Logseq because of the larger community, and because I thought the former's UI looked suitable for hierarchical notes in main categories, which is my usual approach. I go to the right folder and append to the end of the relevant note. I do like Logseq's more free-flowing, block-tagging, hypertext-journal approach, but thought I didn't really need the journal format for now. If Logseq can also do hierarchical organising/browsing with a simple sidebar interface, I think I'll give it a go. Does it work well for that use case? What's nice is that you can run both Logseq and Obsidian on the same Markdown files, since they're (mostly compatible) Markdown, so I'm not too worried about switching as needed or even using both.

eitland 4y ago
I'm not aware of any extension that gives you a hierarchical sidebar on the left. The right side however has a built in "Contents" page - which tells you what it is for - only as far as I know one has to fill it out oneselves. That said, my goal was not to convert you or anyone. I am a NetBeans user myself so I know a bit or two about others telling me why I should switch to "clearly superior alternatives" and I don't want to do that to others ;-)
- creamyhorror 4y ago
  Hah, appreciate it. Although I actually do like finding out about better alternatives and weigh the benefits of switching. It's good to know what people are happy about, even if it isn't quite for oneself. Sounds like Obsidian fits me better than Logseq for now (for the inherent hierarchical organisation). Though one of these days I'll try running Logseq on the same files just for a different view and to try out journalling.
  - eitland 4y ago
    You maybe already know, but I write it anyway in case you or someone else find it interesting: AFAIK Logseq docs encourage new users to put everything under Journal and just tag the relevant blocks. Multiple hierarchical tags are possible, as are aliases, which comes in handy, e.g. I have examples of good ux nested three steps down from root, but in practice I write [[Good UX]] and paste the screenshot and I am done, it shows up at the right place, but is a lot more readable in my journal. BTW, that alias could have been #GoodUX as well and I would have gotten away with hashtag notation.)

mdhen 4y ago

I've been using syncthing to sync logseq and it works very well.

eitland 4y ago
I'm considering it. Currently I sponsor the project and use the built in sync but it is a bit rough around the edges still and I have seen a solution for automatic conflict resolution using syncthing. Do you use a script or something or are you just careful?

Multicomp 4y ago

> As for the modern version of OneNote, I have given it up. It almost isn't comparable. Agreed, that's why I'm happy they basically kicked "onenote for windows 10" to the curb and leaned back into the win32 style full desktop application on Windows, AKA onenote 2021. It even has full dark mode and dictation now!

eitland 4y ago
> the win32 style full desktop application on Windows, AKA onenote 2021. It exists? Edit: I checked and it does exist! Thanks! I installed it and verified tags are just as cute as before. I don't have time to verify if the old brilliant sync via file share feature works longer, but the rest of it looks good. I probably should test OCR of pasted images too, now that I think of it, although the OCR in Windows Power Tools has replaced it for me. I'll probably not use it much again now that I have Logseq and thankfully don't work at many "Microsoft only" shops but if sync via fileshare works it is back as my recommendation for smaller shops that insist on Microsoft centric setups. I'd probably also personally prefer it to Confluence on small projects (and that thankfully means almost every project I touch).