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Some quotes: > “People are now only one click away from Category A material. That is a public safety issue. This extreme material is no longer in the creepy co

Some quotes: > “People are now only one click away from Category A material. That is a public safety issue. This extreme material is no longer in the creepy corners of the internet. It’s in plain sight.” This sounds a little over-dramatic. I'm sure that people looking for CSAM know some places to look. But this almost makes it sound like anyone has a good chance of just accidentally coming upon it. > "Most importantly, companies need to ensure that features such as end-to-end encryption have the necessary safety features built in so that they do not blind themselves to abuse occurring on their platforms.” > Earlier this year, Marriott International, Inc. joined the IWF with the goal of blocking websites containing CSAM from guest internet access in its hotels. The collaboration is the first of its kind for the hotel industry. One of the Marriott’s stated aims was to address a “critical human rights issue for the industry”. > I urge you to join us as we fight to keep children safe - and this includes the tech companies and platforms who have a moral and legal duty to keep children safe, and must not allow End-to-End encryption stop us from identifying and removing this abuse. And here is the crux of the issue. They want to gut end-to-end encryption, prevent platforms from using it entirely, install "backdoors" in encryption, or otherwise "safety measures," whatever that could mean. I don't like CSAM being available on the internet as much as the next person, but I will NEVER support the amelioration of encryption, which would have far-reaching implications for privacy and free speech of everyone in the world who has nothing to do with CSAM.

retrochameleon 3y ago
Additionally, I tried to find out just who funds this foundation. From its Wikipedia page: The IWF is an incorporated charity, limited by guarantee, and largely funded by voluntary contributions from UK communications service providers, including ISPs, mobile phone operators, Internet trade associations, search engines, hardware manufacturers, and software providers. It also currently receives funding from the European Union by comprising one-third of the UK Safer Internet Centre. I wonder if ISPs and search engines would have some benefits to gain from having backdoors in end-to-end encryption. Not to mention the EU at large.
waselighis 3y ago
> This sounds a little over-dramatic. I'm sure that people looking for CSAM know some places to look. But this almost makes it sound like anyone has a good chance of just accidentally coming upon it. I've been on the internet for over 20 years and I don't think I've ever stumbled upon CSAM. But also I never browse websites like 4chan, and I don't really use the dark web for anything. The modern web is heavily centralized, and the major search engines and social media networks are very proactive in blocking this content. So for the average person, it's very unlikely they would just stumble upon it by accident.

retrochameleon 3y ago

Additionally, I tried to find out just who funds this foundation. From its Wikipedia page: The IWF is an incorporated charity, limited by guarantee, and largely funded by voluntary contributions from UK communications service providers, including ISPs, mobile phone operators, Internet trade associations, search engines, hardware manufacturers, and software providers. It also currently receives funding from the European Union by comprising one-third of the UK Safer Internet Centre. I wonder if ISPs and search engines would have some benefits to gain from having backdoors in end-to-end encryption. Not to mention the EU at large.

waselighis 3y ago

> This sounds a little over-dramatic. I'm sure that people looking for CSAM know some places to look. But this almost makes it sound like anyone has a good chance of just accidentally coming upon it. I've been on the internet for over 20 years and I don't think I've ever stumbled upon CSAM. But also I never browse websites like 4chan, and I don't really use the dark web for anything. The modern web is heavily centralized, and the major search engines and social media networks are very proactive in blocking this content. So for the average person, it's very unlikely they would just stumble upon it by accident.