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Lmao 900m£ is not enough for hardware and development required as well as running costs, not with the UK gov's glacial pace and inability to move into the moder

Lmao 900m£ is not enough for hardware and development required as well as running costs, not with the UK gov's glacial pace and inability to move into the modern world. This is just a way to funnel money out. As a Kiwi living in the UK for like 6 years now, the Brits' worst enemies are themselves; they're afraid of change, want everything to stay the same like the good old days and so vote for the same old idiots but complain when the leopards eat their face. Over and over again. History runs deep here and people hold onto things for far too long. Then again, I did come to Europe for the rich history, I just didn't think its inhabitants would be so bound by it.

te_chris 4y ago
I feel like we're the same person (8 years for me though). But of course, this is by design and exactly how the most powerful people here want it. It's an endless struggle at the moment between love of our life in London and feeling of the creeping death of the UK at its own hands.
- fakedang 4y ago
  I left the UK for exactly this reason. I love(d) London so much before - it's the city where I started my career, as a foreigner nonetheless, and it wholly adopted me as near equal citizen with open arms. Plus, being an Indian, it's one of the few places where I actually exercised my right to vote. But visiting back today, the decline in the country in just a span of a few years, it's simply unbearable to watch. The country is simply on a decline, in spite of some of the brightest minds in the EU and the world studying and working there. And London was supposed to be the city that dominated New York around 10-20 years ago.
troad 4y ago
> Then again, I did come to Europe for the rich history, I just didn't think its inhabitants would be so bound by it. Europe is run as a continent-sized retirement home, by incompetent, hereditary elites who are utterly incapable of grappling with the fact that having a history is not a substitute for having an economy. I feel for the people of Europe; they deserve better. So many of the smart, lovely people you meet here are stuck on absurdly low salaries in countries without any obvious future other than managed decline. Instead of being offered a future, they're offered endless relitigation of the past.
- courgette 4y ago
  I earn roughly 4 times in the US what I would earn in France. Not a small difference. I’m still going back. Also, absurds costs of things in the US makes giant salary not that giant as soon as you get kids and plan to provide them with an educations. Regarding future, my very personal take is that European population will be vastly more resilient to what is coming. (TM) I’m concerned about the fabric of society itself in the US. You mention future, it’s unclear what’s in it for the USA. Europeans societies have been thought shit not that long ago and survived somewhat united. The US last crisis was at home was idk? the civil war? But i’m sure I’m being dramatic. None the less, it’s jarring. I don’t want to grow old here and have my kids growing up in a Us culture first. Again; my personal take. My goal was to shine some lights on the other side POV.
  - ethanbond 4y ago
    The US is in a perpetual state of internal turmoil. "The good ol' days" never existed. It's very likely the other side of the same "dynamism" coin that produces much of the innovation/growth/power that the US has accumulated. The Vietnam War was a domestic crisis that involved thousands of domestic terror bombings all across the country, for example.
    - potbelly83 4y ago
      Yep people who think the US was once some stable well run country need a good history lesson. This comes from an immigrant to the US happy to grow old here.
      - courgette 4y ago
        Sure. This has been a shit show since inception. And just looking at any US city outskirts is telling. Also, let’s remember the position of the US in both early WW1 and Ww2. Faschism & racism are not new additions. But is it getting better? How is the trend in regard metrics like Gini coefficient and wealth repartition? What is better before ? Yes, until the 80s, the IRS and middle class were still a thing. I wonders what will happen to channel future discontentments. What would be the outlets. My concern is that once it’s become absolutely clear that upward mobility is broken for most, what will be the recourse of the folks left over in the dust?
dukeyukey 4y ago
To be fair to the UK it's the third-largest tech market in the world, after the continental-scale superstates of the US and China.
- unmole 4y ago
  > the third-largest tech market in the world Do you have a link handy?
  - dukeyukey 4y ago
    Here: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-tech-sector-retains-1-spot-in-europe-and-3-in-world-as-sector-resilience-brings-continued-growth https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-tech-sector-retains-1-... The UK is also third for tech VC investment, but sometimes even overtakes china: https://dealroom.co/guides/united-kingdom https://dealroom.co/guides/united-kingdom https://technation.io/news/uk-tech-q1-2022-investment-update/ https://technation.io/news/uk-tech-q1-2022-investment-update...
hot_gril 4y ago
I'm reading this as, I should develop some kind of "sovereign" tech or consultancy company then rake in tons of govt contracts like this.
- alephu5 4y ago
  You'll also need to befriend some conservative politicians.
xk_id 4y ago
The worst enemy of english people is actually their unique superiority complex - the idea that they are inherently destined to be better than other cultures and the extreme, consistent role this plays in gaining political support. It’s an intoxicating thought that they constantly crave, even if they deny its reality with pragmatic justifications. It’s the reason behind their irresponsible risk taking (brexit), their endless exceptionalist propaganda (the BBC lying about “administering the world’s first” covid vaccine, overlooking the international effort behind preliminary clinical trials) and the reason a keyword like “sovereign” is used to characterise their (probably) unrealistic AI ambitions.
- vlod 4y ago
  It must have taken a lot of time to meet every single one of the 67M people in the UK to form such a generalization.

te_chris 4y ago

I feel like we're the same person (8 years for me though). But of course, this is by design and exactly how the most powerful people here want it. It's an endless struggle at the moment between love of our life in London and feeling of the creeping death of the UK at its own hands.

fakedang 4y ago
I left the UK for exactly this reason. I love(d) London so much before - it's the city where I started my career, as a foreigner nonetheless, and it wholly adopted me as near equal citizen with open arms. Plus, being an Indian, it's one of the few places where I actually exercised my right to vote. But visiting back today, the decline in the country in just a span of a few years, it's simply unbearable to watch. The country is simply on a decline, in spite of some of the brightest minds in the EU and the world studying and working there. And London was supposed to be the city that dominated New York around 10-20 years ago.

troad 4y ago

> Then again, I did come to Europe for the rich history, I just didn't think its inhabitants would be so bound by it. Europe is run as a continent-sized retirement home, by incompetent, hereditary elites who are utterly incapable of grappling with the fact that having a history is not a substitute for having an economy. I feel for the people of Europe; they deserve better. So many of the smart, lovely people you meet here are stuck on absurdly low salaries in countries without any obvious future other than managed decline. Instead of being offered a future, they're offered endless relitigation of the past.

courgette 4y ago
I earn roughly 4 times in the US what I would earn in France. Not a small difference. I’m still going back. Also, absurds costs of things in the US makes giant salary not that giant as soon as you get kids and plan to provide them with an educations. Regarding future, my very personal take is that European population will be vastly more resilient to what is coming. (TM) I’m concerned about the fabric of society itself in the US. You mention future, it’s unclear what’s in it for the USA. Europeans societies have been thought shit not that long ago and survived somewhat united. The US last crisis was at home was idk? the civil war? But i’m sure I’m being dramatic. None the less, it’s jarring. I don’t want to grow old here and have my kids growing up in a Us culture first. Again; my personal take. My goal was to shine some lights on the other side POV.
- ethanbond 4y ago
  The US is in a perpetual state of internal turmoil. "The good ol' days" never existed. It's very likely the other side of the same "dynamism" coin that produces much of the innovation/growth/power that the US has accumulated. The Vietnam War was a domestic crisis that involved thousands of domestic terror bombings all across the country, for example.
  - potbelly83 4y ago
    Yep people who think the US was once some stable well run country need a good history lesson. This comes from an immigrant to the US happy to grow old here.
    - courgette 4y ago
      Sure. This has been a shit show since inception. And just looking at any US city outskirts is telling. Also, let’s remember the position of the US in both early WW1 and Ww2. Faschism & racism are not new additions. But is it getting better? How is the trend in regard metrics like Gini coefficient and wealth repartition? What is better before ? Yes, until the 80s, the IRS and middle class were still a thing. I wonders what will happen to channel future discontentments. What would be the outlets. My concern is that once it’s become absolutely clear that upward mobility is broken for most, what will be the recourse of the folks left over in the dust?

dukeyukey 4y ago

To be fair to the UK it's the third-largest tech market in the world, after the continental-scale superstates of the US and China.

unmole 4y ago
> the third-largest tech market in the world Do you have a link handy?
- dukeyukey 4y ago
  Here: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-tech-sector-retains-1-spot-in-europe-and-3-in-world-as-sector-resilience-brings-continued-growth https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-tech-sector-retains-1-... The UK is also third for tech VC investment, but sometimes even overtakes china: https://dealroom.co/guides/united-kingdom https://dealroom.co/guides/united-kingdom https://technation.io/news/uk-tech-q1-2022-investment-update/ https://technation.io/news/uk-tech-q1-2022-investment-update...

hot_gril 4y ago

I'm reading this as, I should develop some kind of "sovereign" tech or consultancy company then rake in tons of govt contracts like this.

alephu5 4y ago
You'll also need to befriend some conservative politicians.

xk_id 4y ago

The worst enemy of english people is actually their unique superiority complex - the idea that they are inherently destined to be better than other cultures and the extreme, consistent role this plays in gaining political support. It’s an intoxicating thought that they constantly crave, even if they deny its reality with pragmatic justifications. It’s the reason behind their irresponsible risk taking (brexit), their endless exceptionalist propaganda (the BBC lying about “administering the world’s first” covid vaccine, overlooking the international effort behind preliminary clinical trials) and the reason a keyword like “sovereign” is used to characterise their (probably) unrealistic AI ambitions.

vlod 4y ago
It must have taken a lot of time to meet every single one of the 67M people in the UK to form such a generalization.