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The latter is not really the case. There seems to be something that causes animals being fed antibiotics to gain weight faster than without, all other circumsta
by dtech 3y ago
The latter is not really the case. There seems to be something that causes animals being fed antibiotics to gain weight faster than without, all other circumstances being equal. This might have something to do with gut flora.
- giantg2 3y agoWhile it's true they experience more weight gain, that's more of an off-label use. That doesn't negate the claim that proper procedures/care/environment could make the use of animal antibiotics more rare. There are other alternatives to increasing weight gain, although the use of any medication to induce weight gain should require careful consideration.
- Jgrubb 3y agoThe off label use of "makes animals gain weight faster" is why the entire industrial animal meat industry has been feeding antibiotics to cows for over a generation now. It's why "antibiotic free" is a marketing label now, because the opposite was the previous default. The antibiotic properties of antibiotics are basically a side effect.
- giantg2 3y agoEh, sort of. It's still mostly secondary. If you aren't feeding cattle antibiotic in a CAFO where they're crowded, eating spent brewers grain (mostly from fuel production), and living in filth, then they will get sick and die. Same thing for most chicken houses until changes were made a few years ago. The 10% or so of production that takes place on small farms generally didn't use antibiotics as a standard ration because they didn't need to, even if it would have slightly improved weight gain. Even the industry is try to voluntarily eliminate it in pork because they want access to international markets.
- biorach 3y ago> If you aren't feeding cattle antibiotic in a CAFO where they're crowded, eating spent brewers grain (mostly from fuel production), and living in filth, then they will get sick and die Much citation needed. I don't know exactly what you mean by CAFO when it comes to cattle, but the EU banned routine administration of antibiotics with no noticable effect on the practice of permanently housing cows or beef cattle
- giantg2 3y agoPlenty of citation is available if you google the term you don't know. Here's a basic overview of a CAFO (common in US, rare in EU). https://www.sierraclub.org/grassroots-network/food-agriculture/cafos https://www.sierraclub.org/grassroots-network/food-agricultu...
- biorach 3y agoThanks for the patronizing answer to a question I didn't ask The EU has no shortage of feedlots and zero-grazed cow herds, and yet has phased out routine administration of antibiotics without any noticeable reduction in the animals in these conditions. Therefore... I'm asking for a citation for your claim that it's not possible to keep animals alive in these conditions without the use of antibiotics > If you aren't feeding cattle antibiotic in a CAFO where they're crowded, eating spent brewers grain (mostly from fuel production), and living in filth, then they will get sick and die
- giantg2 3y agoDo you have a source?
- xsmasher 3y agoGreater weight gain is the PRIMARY use of antibiotics on animals. There are not given to the animals because they are sick, or to ward off sickness; they are given to ALL animals in a flock/herd to increase their size and therefore their value.
- User23 3y agoEven supposing that’s true, perhaps the same effect can be achieved without antibiotics? For example maybe some kind of probiotic feed that displaces the undesirable gut flora?