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I'm from Poland. It's pure BS propaganda. All lawyers say this putting on hold means nothing legally, and the famous "debate" we had on monday was ridiculous an

by zalew 15y ago

I'm from Poland. It's pure BS propaganda. All lawyers say this putting on hold means nothing legally, and the famous "debate" we had on monday was ridiculous and made for publicity, they are just trying to save their butts and put the public to sleep. So, until we all hear that ACTA is no more, don't get too excited please and act like everything is still on.

Create 15y ago
This is not new. In case of software patents, the Council members of a given country have already decided (we had the minutes of the closed meeting) while advertising consultation and debate back home. It was outright a straight lie, which we could prove. And they got away with it for the time being ...but this will backfire, if it doesn't already, if you look at the EU and EU election turnout http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/europe/04/eu_parliament_guide/html/apathy.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/europe/04/eu_parliamen... (note: the Parliament is still the most voter-friendly EU body, compared to the Council and the Commission -- hopefully they will reject, as it was the case with software patents) seek help from ffii.org
kolinko 15y ago
Well - Tusk admitted that there were certain problems with ACTA, so I consider it a big step. As for debate - yeah, it may not have been very nice, but what did you expect? Somehow, I trust that the signing of ACTA was because Tusk was misinformed. We've made him rethink the whole thing, and he's starting to back off. PO has much to lose if ACTA gets signed, and not much to gain. They seem to get it now.
- Vivtek 15y ago
  We've made him rethink the whole thing This is what has really given me hope in this entire process. The shady back room deals sound great when it's just the content industry in the room - they know how to look cool, and who wouldn't want to be on the Cool Kids' side? But then the public finds out, and the public is really pissed - and that makes them think, "Why did I listen to those guys?" If we can get the politicians of the world to think, "Why did I listen to those guys" more about every topic, the world will be a much better place.

by zalew 15y ago

Create 15y ago

This is not new. In case of software patents, the Council members of a given country have already decided (we had the minutes of the closed meeting) while advertising consultation and debate back home. It was outright a straight lie, which we could prove. And they got away with it for the time being ...but this will backfire, if it doesn't already, if you look at the EU and EU election turnout http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/europe/04/eu_parliament_guide/html/apathy.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/europe/04/eu_parliamen... (note: the Parliament is still the most voter-friendly EU body, compared to the Council and the Commission -- hopefully they will reject, as it was the case with software patents) seek help from ffii.org

kolinko 15y ago

Well - Tusk admitted that there were certain problems with ACTA, so I consider it a big step. As for debate - yeah, it may not have been very nice, but what did you expect? Somehow, I trust that the signing of ACTA was because Tusk was misinformed. We've made him rethink the whole thing, and he's starting to back off. PO has much to lose if ACTA gets signed, and not much to gain. They seem to get it now.

Vivtek 15y ago
We've made him rethink the whole thing This is what has really given me hope in this entire process. The shady back room deals sound great when it's just the content industry in the room - they know how to look cool, and who wouldn't want to be on the Cool Kids' side? But then the public finds out, and the public is really pissed - and that makes them think, "Why did I listen to those guys?" If we can get the politicians of the world to think, "Why did I listen to those guys" more about every topic, the world will be a much better place.