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I get what you mean and I had a similar experience growing up. But: I think that they were there. We just didn't see them a lot. They were cleaning, working in

by garte 3y ago

I get what you mean and I had a similar experience growing up. But: I think that they were there. We just didn't see them a lot. They were cleaning, working in factories, tending gardens, looking after children etc. but they were not represented and thus were not visible. Of course they were a minority, but I'd wager they were there. Upwards social mobility and thus equality is only possible with recognition and representation. Without "being in pictures" they don't exist. That's why pictures should include "Non-Europeans" (this expression in itself is very problematic btw: there is no "European" as something biologically inherent in a person).

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Filligree 3y ago
> But: I think that they were there. We just didn't see them a lot. They were cleaning, working in factories, tending gardens, looking after children etc. but they were not represented and thus were not visible. Of course they were a minority, but I'd wager they were there. No, they genuinely weren't there. Europeans regularly tried to move to my hometown, got depressed/sick from the lack of sunlight in winter, and left. Refugees coming from further south had it... worse. Northern Norway isn't a place outsiders can easily move into. At least, not without installing grow lights in their living room...
skinkestek 3y ago
I think I can assure you they weren't there. There was a lot of noise a few years ago about a Norwegian band[1] who had a song "Neger på Ål stasjon"[2] ("Black man on Ål train station") describing the fascination of the author first time they actually saw a black person in their hometown. I'm not from Ål at all[3](although I have visited it) but I can verify the feeling. Black people were very much excotic were I came from too, and if one of them had shown up we would probably have discussed it at school next day, wondering if they could speak our local language etc. Edit: I should add that we had nothing against black people. A couple of stories to show what I mean: forsome reason we often ended up next to a black family at camping, and I remember my dad and their dad being friends and he took built a toy boat with us once and another time I met a black boy at my age at the beach who was actually from Africa (the first family was from somewhere in Europe) and I was existed that I had met someone from Africa and it was the first time I can remember using English for real. [1]: Hellbillies, awesome sound and some interesting texts BTW [2]: It is a very respectful song [3]: Norwegians might find this funny as "Ål" and English "all" is pronounced about the same way (of course depending on how thick their "L"-s are.
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Filligree 3y ago

> But: I think that they were there. We just didn't see them a lot. They were cleaning, working in factories, tending gardens, looking after children etc. but they were not represented and thus were not visible. Of course they were a minority, but I'd wager they were there. No, they genuinely weren't there. Europeans regularly tried to move to my hometown, got depressed/sick from the lack of sunlight in winter, and left. Refugees coming from further south had it... worse. Northern Norway isn't a place outsiders can easily move into. At least, not without installing grow lights in their living room...

skinkestek 3y ago

I think I can assure you they weren't there. There was a lot of noise a few years ago about a Norwegian band[1] who had a song "Neger på Ål stasjon"[2] ("Black man on Ål train station") describing the fascination of the author first time they actually saw a black person in their hometown. I'm not from Ål at all[3](although I have visited it) but I can verify the feeling. Black people were very much excotic were I came from too, and if one of them had shown up we would probably have discussed it at school next day, wondering if they could speak our local language etc. Edit: I should add that we had nothing against black people. A couple of stories to show what I mean: forsome reason we often ended up next to a black family at camping, and I remember my dad and their dad being friends and he took built a toy boat with us once and another time I met a black boy at my age at the beach who was actually from Africa (the first family was from somewhere in Europe) and I was existed that I had met someone from Africa and it was the first time I can remember using English for real. [1]: Hellbillies, awesome sound and some interesting texts BTW [2]: It is a very respectful song [3]: Norwegians might find this funny as "Ål" and English "all" is pronounced about the same way (of course depending on how thick their "L"-s are.

transcoderx 3y ago

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