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Maybe we just like the idea of a central app store, where everything has to be approved. -makers- want other app stores, but I'm not sure consumers do. I'd go

Maybe we just like the idea of a central app store, where everything has to be approved. -makers- want other app stores, but I'm not sure consumers do. I'd go so far as to argue that -consumers- like the single-app-store, and see that as a feature.

wvenable 4y ago
Consumers also don't know what they don't have.
- eecc 4y ago
  I do know I don’t have to install an alt-store that is going to let its apps track my very soul if I need to install a popular app. E.g. imagine Google rolling their own Play to install Chrome or Maps. Facebook for Whatsapp, Amazon for Kindle et Al, Netflix for its own… etc etc. No the moment that happens it’s over
  - modo_mario 4y ago
    Like what? F-droid?
    - eecc 4y ago
      Yeah righty, that’s like trying to stop the ocean with your hands. You know that 99.999% of users will have several applications or gadgets forcing them — and eventually you, if you want to remain socially functional — to install an unrestricted alt-store. Eg: anecdote: mother-on-law was gifted a cheap smartwatch (Samsung I think). Installing its companion software required downloading and registering to a whole new store on her Android smartphone. Weirdly enough I think it was also a Samsung, already had 2 stores (the Samsung and Play ones), yet she (we) had to dump yet another one on that sorry mess.
- ben_w 4y ago
  Henry Ford[0] quote about consumers wanting a better horse. But in this case, Android does exist. [0] Misunderstanding leading to misattribution: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/07/28/ford-faster-horse https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/07/28/ford-faster-horse
theodric 4y ago
No *durable* (i.e. doesn't expire in a week and need to be refreshed) sideloading is the no.2 thing keeping me off iOS. The no.1 thing is that I find the entire user experience frustrating, inflexible, and frankly condescending. 3 would be that I can get 2-3 decent Android devices for the cost of an iPhone, so my phone-having-time per € works out about same-- plus I still get to upgrade every couple of years. I get that people like their iPhones. My wife is one of them. I'm not. People are different. Choice is good. Some folks choose to cede control in favor of simplicity. Go off.

wvenable 4y ago

Consumers also don't know what they don't have.

eecc 4y ago
I do know I don’t have to install an alt-store that is going to let its apps track my very soul if I need to install a popular app. E.g. imagine Google rolling their own Play to install Chrome or Maps. Facebook for Whatsapp, Amazon for Kindle et Al, Netflix for its own… etc etc. No the moment that happens it’s over
- modo_mario 4y ago
  Like what? F-droid?
  - eecc 4y ago
    Yeah righty, that’s like trying to stop the ocean with your hands. You know that 99.999% of users will have several applications or gadgets forcing them — and eventually you, if you want to remain socially functional — to install an unrestricted alt-store. Eg: anecdote: mother-on-law was gifted a cheap smartwatch (Samsung I think). Installing its companion software required downloading and registering to a whole new store on her Android smartphone. Weirdly enough I think it was also a Samsung, already had 2 stores (the Samsung and Play ones), yet she (we) had to dump yet another one on that sorry mess.
ben_w 4y ago
Henry Ford[0] quote about consumers wanting a better horse. But in this case, Android does exist. [0] Misunderstanding leading to misattribution: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/07/28/ford-faster-horse https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/07/28/ford-faster-horse

theodric 4y ago

No *durable* (i.e. doesn't expire in a week and need to be refreshed) sideloading is the no.2 thing keeping me off iOS. The no.1 thing is that I find the entire user experience frustrating, inflexible, and frankly condescending. 3 would be that I can get 2-3 decent Android devices for the cost of an iPhone, so my phone-having-time per € works out about same-- plus I still get to upgrade every couple of years. I get that people like their iPhones. My wife is one of them. I'm not. People are different. Choice is good. Some folks choose to cede control in favor of simplicity. Go off.