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> Within a matter of months, lawsuits had been filed against generative AI companies Stability AI and Midjourney for copyright infringement [...] But these aren

by dvt 4y ago

> Within a matter of months, lawsuits had been filed against generative AI companies Stability AI and Midjourney for copyright infringement [...] But these aren’t Schuhmann’s concerns. He just wants to set the data free. Maybe it should be one of his concerns? I'm not sure how he would feel about someone stealing his work and commercializing it.

vasco 4y ago
He is not commercializing it as far as I know.
- dvt 4y ago
  "Hey man, I just make the meth, I don't sell it." The point I'm trying to get across is that, at least to me, it seems incredibly irresponsible and borderline unethical.
  - jonhohle 4y ago
    Depending on views about drugs and personal liberty, that statement may be neither irresponsible nor unethical.
  - moomoo3000 4y ago
    These are all images that were posted to the internet right? That place where anyone can download things freely?
    - dvt 4y ago
      > That place where anyone can download things freely? This is incredibly reductive. Property rights exist on the internet, too. Like how someone can own a domain name or the copyright to a photograph or short story.
  - vasco 4y ago
    So say what you think is unethical, don't stretch the truth just because you think you are right. He is not commercializing anything and kept his job as a high-school teacher.
DoreenMichele 4y ago
Anything can be misused. The person who intentionally and willfully misuses it is the problem, not the existence of the thing per se.
layer8 4y ago
LAION doesn’t publish the images, only the metadata with links to the original image locations. Arguably, the alt text contained in the metadata is still subject to copyright.
whywhywhywhy 4y ago
> Maybe it should be one of his concerns? I'm not sure how he would feel about someone stealing his work and commercializing it Covered in the article, his work is being commercialized and profited from: > Schuhmann hasn’t profited from LAION and says he isn’t interested in doing so. “I’m still a high school teacher. I have rejected job offers from all different kinds of companies because I wanted this to stay independent,”

by dvt 4y ago

vasco 4y ago

He is not commercializing it as far as I know.

dvt 4y ago
"Hey man, I just make the meth, I don't sell it." The point I'm trying to get across is that, at least to me, it seems incredibly irresponsible and borderline unethical.
- jonhohle 4y ago
  Depending on views about drugs and personal liberty, that statement may be neither irresponsible nor unethical.
- moomoo3000 4y ago
  These are all images that were posted to the internet right? That place where anyone can download things freely?
  - dvt 4y ago
    > That place where anyone can download things freely? This is incredibly reductive. Property rights exist on the internet, too. Like how someone can own a domain name or the copyright to a photograph or short story.
- vasco 4y ago
  So say what you think is unethical, don't stretch the truth just because you think you are right. He is not commercializing anything and kept his job as a high-school teacher.

DoreenMichele 4y ago

Anything can be misused. The person who intentionally and willfully misuses it is the problem, not the existence of the thing per se.

layer8 4y ago

LAION doesn’t publish the images, only the metadata with links to the original image locations. Arguably, the alt text contained in the metadata is still subject to copyright.

whywhywhywhy 4y ago

> Maybe it should be one of his concerns? I'm not sure how he would feel about someone stealing his work and commercializing it Covered in the article, his work is being commercialized and profited from: > Schuhmann hasn’t profited from LAION and says he isn’t interested in doing so. “I’m still a high school teacher. I have rejected job offers from all different kinds of companies because I wanted this to stay independent,”