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I cannot say I have ever encountered any of the problems you describe and I use Apple Pay daily to pay for everything. Just double tap the power button before p

by enlyth 3y ago

I cannot say I have ever encountered any of the problems you describe and I use Apple Pay daily to pay for everything. Just double tap the power button before paying and hold it to the terminal, it takes like 2 seconds.

kajecounterhack 3y ago
I just switched from a Google Pixel 5 and while I still use Apple Pay, I've gotta say that fingerprint + scan is way faster than {double tap + faceid + scan}. The friction of Apple's approach is _almost_ enough to make me pull out my card instead depending on how well FaceID is working that day for me.
- wenc 3y ago
  I wonder if the friction comes from holding the phone too far away when you're doing the Face ID scan. I double-tap and Face ID scan right in front of me first, then I hold it out and tap on the reader. It always works and there's hardly any delay. Fishing my credit card out of my back wallet takes 2 seconds longer. That said, nowadays I use my Apple Watch and that's even faster -- double click the side button, and tap. (No Face ID at all)
  - kajecounterhack 3y ago
    For me it's: 1. Long hair can sometimes get in my face, making FaceID unreliable 2. Camera angle in the "tap" position is not the angle it needs to be in for the FaceID unlock. I often double click then try to tap my phone, only to remember that I need to FaceID unlock.
    - wenc 3y ago
      I can’t speak to 1 but for 2 the routine is auth first, tap later. Double click, hold up to face, then hold to reader. Also two things: if you’re willing to accept a less secure Face ID you can turn off attention (1). And if you’re paying for transit, you can turn on Express transit if supported on your provider — then it’s just tap, no need to auth. (1) https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/face-id-attention-iph646624222/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/face-id-attention-iph...
- kube-system 3y ago
  There’s always the iPhone SE
alwillis 3y ago
Same; also, it’s just a double-press on the side button on my Apple Watch and the Wallet comes right up. Great when you’re in self-checkout in a busy supermarket…
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rexf 3y ago
Agreed. Both scenarios are similar. I wouldn't say one is inherently better than the other: 1. grab wallet from pocket, find card, align card to tap to pay target 2. grab phone from pocket, double tap phone side button while looking at it, align phone to tap to pay target It also depends what you already have out. If you already have your wallet or phone out (wherever your store loyalty card is), that mode (wallet or phone) is that much easier

by enlyth 3y ago

kajecounterhack 3y ago

I just switched from a Google Pixel 5 and while I still use Apple Pay, I've gotta say that fingerprint + scan is way faster than {double tap + faceid + scan}. The friction of Apple's approach is _almost_ enough to make me pull out my card instead depending on how well FaceID is working that day for me.

wenc 3y ago
I wonder if the friction comes from holding the phone too far away when you're doing the Face ID scan. I double-tap and Face ID scan right in front of me first, then I hold it out and tap on the reader. It always works and there's hardly any delay. Fishing my credit card out of my back wallet takes 2 seconds longer. That said, nowadays I use my Apple Watch and that's even faster -- double click the side button, and tap. (No Face ID at all)
- kajecounterhack 3y ago
  For me it's: 1. Long hair can sometimes get in my face, making FaceID unreliable 2. Camera angle in the "tap" position is not the angle it needs to be in for the FaceID unlock. I often double click then try to tap my phone, only to remember that I need to FaceID unlock.
  - wenc 3y ago
    I can’t speak to 1 but for 2 the routine is auth first, tap later. Double click, hold up to face, then hold to reader. Also two things: if you’re willing to accept a less secure Face ID you can turn off attention (1). And if you’re paying for transit, you can turn on Express transit if supported on your provider — then it’s just tap, no need to auth. (1) https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/face-id-attention-iph646624222/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/face-id-attention-iph...
kube-system 3y ago
There’s always the iPhone SE

alwillis 3y ago

Same; also, it’s just a double-press on the side button on my Apple Watch and the Wallet comes right up. Great when you’re in self-checkout in a busy supermarket…

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rexf 3y ago

Agreed. Both scenarios are similar. I wouldn't say one is inherently better than the other: 1. grab wallet from pocket, find card, align card to tap to pay target 2. grab phone from pocket, double tap phone side button while looking at it, align phone to tap to pay target It also depends what you already have out. If you already have your wallet or phone out (wherever your store loyalty card is), that mode (wallet or phone) is that much easier