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One could also write an image crawler to execute from AWS. The key is finding quality source material. It may become necessary to: 1. Fly drones around to ga

One could also write an image crawler to execute from AWS. The key is finding quality source material. It may become necessary to: 1. Fly drones around to gather data in the world at present time 2. Direct humans to take high-quality photos of particular subjects. Fiverr for photography

ramraj07 4y ago
You mean like what google did with street view and convincing everyone to upload their photos on to maps?
- lmpdev 4y ago
  Like that but properly organised and with higher quality imagery I've been wanting this for quite sometime
- Tepix 4y ago
  Or like Mapillary (bought by Facebook, but with a liberal license still)
bradgessler 4y ago
This will be the new captcha challenge—“take a picture of 14 crosswalks” It will send you a link to an app that only runs on an iPhone so it can verify you actually took the pics from the phone.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  That would not be a11y friendly!
  - logi2mus 4y ago
    Why exactly, they should know how to use crosswalks by that age.
    - newswasboring 4y ago
      a11y means accessibility. Apparently this is a common enough jargon in that part of the industry.
      - Maken 4y ago
        Is the jargon going too far?
        deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
        wongarsu 4y ago
        I the j4n going too far? English always had a dislike for long words, so turning long and s11d words into shorter forms is the next logical step in l6e evolution. Certainly beats having to spell w12e sauce in its entirety /s
        Maken 4y ago
        At some point LLMs will have a easier time understanding English than actual human beings.
        quickthrower2 4y ago
        At least w12e is easier to pronounce:-)
        newswasboring 4y ago
        Expecting people to know this is going too far. I mean usually the acronym gives a hint, this is just straight up medieval druid vibes. "Oh the field which begins with a followed by our savior's pious 11 letters and then a y"
  - OJFord 4y ago
    Neither are current captchas: they're ina11 to non-US residents (/former residents). (We don't have 'crosswalks'. 'Fire hydrants' don't look like that. 'Parking meters' don't look like that (or any one standardised thing really). Traffic lights don't look like that and how much of them am I meant to click anyway. School buses don't look like that. Trucks don't look like that. I'm sure there are more.)
    - wongarsu 4y ago
      And often it's even more subtle. Apparently Americans don't consider pedestrian lights part of the traffic lights. And apparently they only mark the actual light assembly, not the structure holding them up. Lot's of things where you might think you know what you're doing, but are actually doing it wrong because you lack cultural context..
      - the_lonely_road 4y ago
        That doesn’t seem like cultural context at all. That just seems like the arbitrary decision of the person who created the captchas. I am, presumably, from the same culture as them and would have agreed that pole was part of the traffic light.
    - quickthrower2 4y ago
      I know most of HN lives downtown but not everyone is near a crosswalk. And then there are blind people, etc.
      - OJFord 4y ago
        I assume non-downtown US residents are still significantly more aware of the term, what it is, and what it looks like. I'd heard it in films before captcha, but had to guess it's the zebra crossing looking (the meaning is different though, I understand) things. Now it's just something I'm familiar with because of captcha, even more so 'parking meters'. Which is just weird, why do I have to learn something mundane about a specific country in order to prove I'm human and allowed to use a global website?
- moffkalast 4y ago
  takes pictures of a screen with the phone
TACIXAT 4y ago
I've built a site to pay people for images and annotations. [1] I'm trying to onboard my first paid users right now. The plan is to build out a high quality 50k image license plate recognition dataset as a proof of concept. Right now we own all of the datasets on the site and the idea is to license them out to companies while making them available to researchers under a non-commercial license. The market might take it a different direction to be more of a marketplace or Github style hosting. Email in bio if anyone wants to chat about this. Also, if anyone wants to get paid 10 cents an image to take pictures of North American license plates, get in touch. Need about 1000 from each state. It's probably below most people's pay grade on here but there is a whole reverse bidding system, so you can always bid higher than 10 cents. Some user studies with a shared screen would be super helpful as well. 1. https://mekabytes.com https://mekabytes.com
- kennyloginz 4y ago
  Wow, interesting project. Not sure how many people you can entice into providing 10k photos of license plates, firearms, and children in pools. I kid, but are you building an alert system for a superhero?
  - TACIXAT 4y ago
    Ha! It is a bit public safety focused right now. The first two I will really build out (read: pay people to help with) are license plate recognition and vehicle make/model/year identification. I think those have a decent market. The firearms one is tricky and I'm not sure it will ever be licensed commercially since we don't own the footage that the images are taken from. Valuable dataset in terms of what it could provide though, like an early warning system for active shooters. Some day I'll have enough free time and just make a billiards dataset to help me find shots.
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      Have a good look at privacy laws in the states/countries of your users, in some things like this may be against the law or subject to restrictions. See: https://www.ncsl.org/technology-and-communication/automated-license-plate-readers-state-statutes https://www.ncsl.org/technology-and-communication/automated-...

ramraj07 4y ago

You mean like what google did with street view and convincing everyone to upload their photos on to maps?

lmpdev 4y ago
Like that but properly organised and with higher quality imagery I've been wanting this for quite sometime
Tepix 4y ago
Or like Mapillary (bought by Facebook, but with a liberal license still)

bradgessler 4y ago

This will be the new captcha challenge—“take a picture of 14 crosswalks” It will send you a link to an app that only runs on an iPhone so it can verify you actually took the pics from the phone.

quickthrower2 4y ago
That would not be a11y friendly!
- logi2mus 4y ago
  Why exactly, they should know how to use crosswalks by that age.
  - newswasboring 4y ago
    a11y means accessibility. Apparently this is a common enough jargon in that part of the industry.
    - Maken 4y ago
      Is the jargon going too far?
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
      - wongarsu 4y ago
        I the j4n going too far? English always had a dislike for long words, so turning long and s11d words into shorter forms is the next logical step in l6e evolution. Certainly beats having to spell w12e sauce in its entirety /s
        Maken 4y ago
        At some point LLMs will have a easier time understanding English than actual human beings.
        quickthrower2 4y ago
        At least w12e is easier to pronounce:-)
      - newswasboring 4y ago
        Expecting people to know this is going too far. I mean usually the acronym gives a hint, this is just straight up medieval druid vibes. "Oh the field which begins with a followed by our savior's pious 11 letters and then a y"
- OJFord 4y ago
  Neither are current captchas: they're ina11 to non-US residents (/former residents). (We don't have 'crosswalks'. 'Fire hydrants' don't look like that. 'Parking meters' don't look like that (or any one standardised thing really). Traffic lights don't look like that and how much of them am I meant to click anyway. School buses don't look like that. Trucks don't look like that. I'm sure there are more.)
  - wongarsu 4y ago
    And often it's even more subtle. Apparently Americans don't consider pedestrian lights part of the traffic lights. And apparently they only mark the actual light assembly, not the structure holding them up. Lot's of things where you might think you know what you're doing, but are actually doing it wrong because you lack cultural context..
    - the_lonely_road 4y ago
      That doesn’t seem like cultural context at all. That just seems like the arbitrary decision of the person who created the captchas. I am, presumably, from the same culture as them and would have agreed that pole was part of the traffic light.
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    I know most of HN lives downtown but not everyone is near a crosswalk. And then there are blind people, etc.
    - OJFord 4y ago
      I assume non-downtown US residents are still significantly more aware of the term, what it is, and what it looks like. I'd heard it in films before captcha, but had to guess it's the zebra crossing looking (the meaning is different though, I understand) things. Now it's just something I'm familiar with because of captcha, even more so 'parking meters'. Which is just weird, why do I have to learn something mundane about a specific country in order to prove I'm human and allowed to use a global website?
moffkalast 4y ago
takes pictures of a screen with the phone

TACIXAT 4y ago

I've built a site to pay people for images and annotations. [1] I'm trying to onboard my first paid users right now. The plan is to build out a high quality 50k image license plate recognition dataset as a proof of concept. Right now we own all of the datasets on the site and the idea is to license them out to companies while making them available to researchers under a non-commercial license. The market might take it a different direction to be more of a marketplace or Github style hosting. Email in bio if anyone wants to chat about this. Also, if anyone wants to get paid 10 cents an image to take pictures of North American license plates, get in touch. Need about 1000 from each state. It's probably below most people's pay grade on here but there is a whole reverse bidding system, so you can always bid higher than 10 cents. Some user studies with a shared screen would be super helpful as well. 1. https://mekabytes.com https://mekabytes.com

kennyloginz 4y ago
Wow, interesting project. Not sure how many people you can entice into providing 10k photos of license plates, firearms, and children in pools. I kid, but are you building an alert system for a superhero?
- TACIXAT 4y ago
  Ha! It is a bit public safety focused right now. The first two I will really build out (read: pay people to help with) are license plate recognition and vehicle make/model/year identification. I think those have a decent market. The firearms one is tricky and I'm not sure it will ever be licensed commercially since we don't own the footage that the images are taken from. Valuable dataset in terms of what it could provide though, like an early warning system for active shooters. Some day I'll have enough free time and just make a billiards dataset to help me find shots.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Have a good look at privacy laws in the states/countries of your users, in some things like this may be against the law or subject to restrictions. See: https://www.ncsl.org/technology-and-communication/automated-license-plate-readers-state-statutes https://www.ncsl.org/technology-and-communication/automated-...