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> Until This has been the case for over a decade on smartphones, and corporations like Microsoft are currently hard at work bringing it to traditional computer
by bakugo 4y ago
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This has been the case for over a decade on smartphones, and corporations like Microsoft are currently hard at work bringing it to traditional computers.
- matheusmoreira 4y agoNot at all. Android phones had relatively good user freedom for a long time. You could root them, intercept system calls and return fake data to apps, intercept their network traffic and see what it's phoning home about or even debug the apps themselves. Life was good, the device was mostly ours, we were in control and all these app developers answered to us whether they wanted to or not. Only now is hardware remote attestation putting an end to all that.
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- themoonisachees 4y agoAndroid phones are still like that if you choose to not buy pixels or Samsungs
- theodric 4y agoYes, but why would you?
- matheusmoreira 4y agoFor now.
- out_of_protocol 4y agoNot really. Some devices can be rooted/flashed, some others are not rootable in practice. Also, there's another vector to it - SafetyNet. If google decides it can't trust the device, many apps will stop working, sometimes can kill even Camera and the like (e.g. https://www.xda-developers.com/bootloader-unlocking-no-longer-kills-galaxy-z-fold-3-cameras/ https://www.xda-developers.com/bootloader-unlocking-no-longe... ). And bypassing SafetyNet going to be harder and harder, and device without SafetyNet passing going to be more useless (e.g. McDonalds App will not run without it)
- matheusmoreira 4y agoThat's exactly what I meant by: > Only now is hardware remote attestation putting an end to all that.