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This sort of thing in the bicycle scene is very common; there are a lot of "bike kitchens" in urban areas. The best part about them is that most bicycle mainten
by KennyBlanken 4y ago
This sort of thing in the bicycle scene is very common; there are a lot of "bike kitchens" in urban areas. The best part about them is that most bicycle maintenance can be very DIY even in a tiny apartment; you just need tools and know-how, so you're not just "giving a man a fish" - people can become very self-reliant for many bike repairs. Park Tools has an AMAZING youtube channel that teaches people how to do damn near anything.
I've wanted to do something similar, and I remember reading on reddit that communal garages are very common on military bases...but in the real world, the greatest barrier I can see is insurance, primarily liability insurance. The potential liabilities, especially if you are a "shadetree" mechanic without some sort of recognized certification, are huge. Waivers cannot cover everything (including gross negligence.) I really wish the article had covered how he structured things; maybe he's simply banking on not having anything worth going after?
There's the liability not just from the repairs but from having volunteers using tools and lifts.
On a moral front: I'm very experienced with car repair, and while I have done things like brake jobs for street and track cars - it's me in the driver's seat in those cars. I wouldn't do a brake job for a friend beyond maybe a pad and rotor change, mostly because I couldn't bear the thought of my fucking up something and it resulting in someone being hurt.
Efforts like this are commendable, but what we really need to work on is putting back the public transit infrastructure that used to be in this country, and making it not only possible to walk and bike, but safe to do so, in terms of infrastructure and enforcement of vehicle standards and traffic laws that hold people more legally responsible if they are at fault when injuring or hurting others.
The automotive industry acclimating us to the notion that you can get away with injuring someone in a car crash you caused without any criminal penalty is the greatest wool-pull-over on the American public in probably the history of our country. Ditto for establishing the precedent that the identity of someone inside a metal box with partially reflective (and likely even tinted) windows in order to hold them responsible.
Why? As the article points out:
> Automobile culture is a system in which individuals privately shoulder the cost of public economic life. If your car fails in Alabama — and you cannot get to work, the grocery store, or school — your life begins to fail. It’s a system that perpetuates poverty.
If he really wants to help people, getting them on e-bikes, if it's practical to do so, would be a huge money savings for them. The vast majority of the US population lives in urbanized areas, and the vast majority of vehicle trips in the US are well under 5 miles. The "need" for cars is entirely artificial in much of our country and it is due to conscious choices by transportation planners and politicians to make infrastructure hostile to people not in a car.
I think the break-event point for a $1-1.5k ebike, which is a pretty damn nice ebike, is probably less than a thousand miles of driving a car (going off the IRS 50 cents/mile deduction) particularly an older one that doesn't get good mileage. Even if you've got a Prius, in gas costs alone the payback is under a year presuming you drive 20k miles/year.
- DoreenMichele 4y agoThey avoided putting more than $500 of work into any vehicle and taking jobs over four hours long. The ideal AFC customer, Henson told me, is someone who shows up, does their own work, and gets their car to run for 300,000 miles. An expensive ebike is potentially an attractive nuisance that could get stolen. Not everyone knows how to ride a bike. He's been politically active, got someone elected and they didn't keep their promises. He's doing what he can do to make a difference rather than making excuses and saying "We really ought to fix the infrastructure...but..."
- KennyBlanken 4y ago> Not everyone knows how to ride a bike. In the US, 6%. Non-issue. 3x people do not have a license (16%). Far more people are prohibited from driving for reasons like OUI or nonpayment of citations and such. > An expensive ebike is potentially an attractive nuisance that could get stolen Car theft in low-income neighborhoods is a huge problem and police don't care. A bicycle is a fraction of the replacement cost and is much easier to secure. You can't bring a car into your apartment, nor can you stash a car in the corner of your shop at your job. Also, many renter's insurance policies will either cover a bike by default or they can be added for a cheap rider....far cheaper than the cost of car insurance. It also doesn't have to be an e-bike...$500 gets you a really nice single-speed transportation bike that costs next to nothing and is easy to stash somewhere safe. Do you seriously not realize that such bikes are a staple of service workers and students in a lot of cities? > He's doing what he can do to make a difference rather than making excuses and saying "We really ought to fix the infrastructure...but..." Nobody is "making excuses" here except you.
- DoreenMichele 4y agoNobody is "making excuses" here except you. That is a personal attack. It's not appropriate here. You want to go to Alabama and implement your ideas? Cool. Otherwise, I think it's inappropriate to dismiss the work he chooses to do and assume you, as an outsider, have better armchair solutions. I grew up in Georgia in a city on the Alabama border. I'm extremely poor and have lived without a car for over a decade. Insurance for your apartment is not something extremely poor people necessarily have. Someone very comfortably well-off and living in a bike-oriented locale talked on HN about not wanting to leave their ebike locked up too long in a public place (for fear of it being stolen).* So that's part of where that thought comes from. I gave up my car while living in Georgia. There were few sidewalks and it was an hour walk to work. There was a bus stop near my apartment and a bus stop near my job but there was no bus connecting the two. It would have taken more time to take the bus than to walk it. * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29203173 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29203173