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I think things like a serious implementation of the Laws of Identity (http://www.ipc.on.ca/images/Resources/PrivacybyDesign%20Book-ch14.pdf http://www.ipc.on.ca

by camwest 15y ago

I think things like a serious implementation of the Laws of Identity (http://www.ipc.on.ca/images/Resources/PrivacybyDesign%20Book-ch14.pdf http://www.ipc.on.ca/images/Resources/PrivacybyDesign%20Book...) are one of the missing pieces in giving back control to the people. It's funny because the biggest players lately (Zynga, Facebook, Google etc) are building up these walled gardens like a bunch of wannabe imperialists. Who exactly is leading the Rebel forces?

olefoo 15y ago
Mozilla has good creds as a stalwart member of the Rebel Alliance and the work on https://browserid.org/ https://browserid.org/ does in fact lay some of the needed groundwork for a changing the ground of debate when it comes to identity on the internet. That said. Corruption, like rust, never sleeps; and we must be careful to not fall to the lure of the dark side ourselves.
- eternalban 15y ago
  The relationship between the Empire, I mean, Google and Mozilla is disturbing the force.
  - zanny 15y ago
    Reminds me of the Confederacy from the prequels. Oh yeah, those are forbidden. Regardless, the Republic and Confederacy were both toys of the Emperor, so I guess Google and Firefox... Ok I'll just leave. Star Wars should be public domain though (the original 3 movies). Fuck infinite copyright.
    - sukuriant 15y ago
      I have to disagree here. George Lucas is still alive, and he wrote it.
      - nitrogen 15y ago
        Why should copyright be tied to the life of the author (serious question)? When I discuss copyright with friends I typically argue for a fixed copyright term regardless of when the author dies. What are the arguments to the contrary?
EGreg 15y ago
What is that paper talking about? I'm sorry but aren't all these things already in place? You can generate your own certificate, you can have them issued by certificate authorities... you can sign up with facebook, you can have your own domain from a registrar, you can have your own email address, etc. At the end of the day, who really cares about your unified identity? Only advertisers, and even they don't really care about ALL the aspects of what you do. Everyone just needs to see the relevant "user" that you have on their particular network. While YOU need to have a secure and private machine that gives control over your data verifies others' access to it, by relying on their identity relative to you. That's all. The only really important part of identity is that the account should not be transferable to one or more unauthorized users. Authorization should ideally be granted by both sides. "What you know" is transferrable, which is why "who you are" or "what you have" is often better. If you lose "what you have", you can invalidate that account, and transfer your identity to another one, with the permission of the identity issuer.

by camwest 15y ago

olefoo 15y ago

Mozilla has good creds as a stalwart member of the Rebel Alliance and the work on https://browserid.org/ https://browserid.org/ does in fact lay some of the needed groundwork for a changing the ground of debate when it comes to identity on the internet. That said. Corruption, like rust, never sleeps; and we must be careful to not fall to the lure of the dark side ourselves.

eternalban 15y ago
The relationship between the Empire, I mean, Google and Mozilla is disturbing the force.
- zanny 15y ago
  Reminds me of the Confederacy from the prequels. Oh yeah, those are forbidden. Regardless, the Republic and Confederacy were both toys of the Emperor, so I guess Google and Firefox... Ok I'll just leave. Star Wars should be public domain though (the original 3 movies). Fuck infinite copyright.
  - sukuriant 15y ago
    I have to disagree here. George Lucas is still alive, and he wrote it.
    - nitrogen 15y ago
      Why should copyright be tied to the life of the author (serious question)? When I discuss copyright with friends I typically argue for a fixed copyright term regardless of when the author dies. What are the arguments to the contrary?

EGreg 15y ago

What is that paper talking about? I'm sorry but aren't all these things already in place? You can generate your own certificate, you can have them issued by certificate authorities... you can sign up with facebook, you can have your own domain from a registrar, you can have your own email address, etc. At the end of the day, who really cares about your unified identity? Only advertisers, and even they don't really care about ALL the aspects of what you do. Everyone just needs to see the relevant "user" that you have on their particular network. While YOU need to have a secure and private machine that gives control over your data verifies others' access to it, by relying on their identity relative to you. That's all. The only really important part of identity is that the account should not be transferable to one or more unauthorized users. Authorization should ideally be granted by both sides. "What you know" is transferrable, which is why "who you are" or "what you have" is often better. If you lose "what you have", you can invalidate that account, and transfer your identity to another one, with the permission of the identity issuer.